From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:09:32 +0000 Message-ID: <878v4zo59f.fsf@riseup.net> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9iwcp.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2v4f5bb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r4jjp2d2.fsf@yandex.ru> <8738vagciq.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365012577 6357 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 18:09:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:09:37 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Wed Apr 03 20:10:02 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS8E-0005cS-Hq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:09:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47648 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS7p-0005Bd-Nt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:09:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56847) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS7h-0005AN-Hv for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:09:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS7b-0004Rg-97 for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:09:25 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41007) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS7b-0004RR-3S for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 14:09:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNS7x-0005M3-SR for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:09:41 +0200 Original-Received: from tor28.anonymizer.ccc.de ([77.244.254.228]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:09:41 +0200 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by tor28.anonymizer.ccc.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 20:09:41 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: tor28.anonymizer.ccc.de X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aen7Lqsnout8EzNybw8emxnNCyI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158614 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: > Am 03.04.2013 10:46, schrieb Bastien: >> Andreas Röhler writes: >> >>> AFAIU the very reasons are beyond Emacs. >> >> Im my opinion, they are far below Emacs. >> >> One upset ego tries to inflate the personal issue at stake > > Hmm, always felt Emacs a very special community with a lot of strong > personalities. Still like it :) > > and >> to make everyone believes there is a legal issue while there is >> none. >> > > Wherefrom the eagerness to remove Jambus's code then? > Seems more people believe that, even if it's wrong wrt GPL. It stems from the fact that, when someone behaves dishonorably and doesn't keep their commitments, or tries to shirk those commitments in order to harm others (in fact, even saying loudly that his intent is to harm others), one should be wary of entering into an agreement with them again. Who is to know is, once Jambunathan revokes his general assignment and starts doing case-by-case assignments, he won't also try to use those to exert power over Emacs and Org development? He probably will. You teach people how to treat you. By walking away from his code, if Org chose to do that, it would only be protecting itself from further trouble. -- BOFH excuse #262: Our POP server was kidnapped by a weasel.