From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 14110@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14110: 24.3.50; Add command to open files outside of Emacs (use xdg-open, open etc)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:22:37 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878v4ygp3u.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvhajm9soe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:24:50 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Leo suggests `dired-guess-shell-alist-user'. COMMAND there is a sexp,
>> btw. So the above variable is also evil.
>
> Yes. I also plead guilty of doing that a few times in the past.
> It's still evil.
>
>> There is one another reason why `dired-guess-shell-alist-user' will be
>> improper to be used for Open semantics. IIRC, running a shell command
>> .tex file compiles it. So equating shell command with open is
>> confusing, btw.
>
> I tend to agree, but:
> - I can't think of anything useful "open" could do with a .tex file
> other than pass it back to Emacs (which you can already do better by
> opening the file in Emacs without going through "open").
> While this might not apply to all cases, I suspect that most cases are
> like that.
`open-file' command (as I see it) will do what a "double click" in
Windows Explorer or Thunar will do. Note that each popular
`system-type' already has a open command.
In Windows + MikTex, double-clicking on a .tex will open a specialized
viewer (IIRC, it is called yap).
More importantly, `open-file' on a directory will launch Windows
explorer or Thunar or Nautilus.
> - That doesn't preclude using dired-guess-shell. It might just mean
> that we should have maybe an alist for "run command" and another alist
> for "open command" (and maybe a third alist to share the many common
> cases between the two).
Big NO for having an alist (within Emacs) for the open command.
The alist is already maintained by the user's desktop (likely via
Explore->`Open with' -> `Always use this application for these files').
Emacs should at no point in time have any knowledge of this association.
To accommodate other systems which are non-desktopy (DOS?), we can
enhance the shell-command history var to be a (cons FILE-EXTENSION
VIEWER). This will be an exception rather than the norm.
> Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-04-04 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-04-01 6:57 bug#14110: 24.3.50; Add command to open files outside of Emacs (use xdg-open, open etc) Jambunathan K
2002-01-01 0:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-01 7:42 ` Leo Liu
2013-04-01 8:06 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-01 13:31 ` Leo Liu
2013-04-01 20:23 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04 1:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 3:25 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04 12:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 14:34 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04 16:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 17:52 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-04-04 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-05 4:58 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-05 6:03 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-04-10 4:30 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10 5:39 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-04-05 6:53 ` Leo Liu
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