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From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 14110@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#14110: 24.3.50; Add command to open files outside of Emacs (use xdg-open, open etc)
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:22:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878v4ygp3u.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvhajm9soe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 04 Apr 2013 12:24:50 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> Leo suggests `dired-guess-shell-alist-user'.  COMMAND there is a sexp,
>> btw. So the above variable is also evil.
>
> Yes.  I also plead guilty of doing that a few times in the past.
> It's still evil.
>
>> There is one another reason why `dired-guess-shell-alist-user' will be
>> improper to be used for Open semantics.  IIRC, running a shell command
>> .tex file compiles it.  So equating shell command with open is
>> confusing, btw.
>
> I tend to agree, but:
> - I can't think of anything useful "open" could do with a .tex file
>   other than pass it back to Emacs (which you can already do better by
>   opening the file in Emacs without going through "open").
>   While this might not apply to all cases, I suspect that most cases are
>   like that.

`open-file' command (as I see it) will do what a "double click" in
Windows Explorer or Thunar will do.  Note that each popular
`system-type' already has a open command.

In Windows + MikTex, double-clicking on a .tex will open a specialized
viewer (IIRC, it is called yap).  

More importantly, `open-file' on a directory will launch Windows
explorer or Thunar or Nautilus.

> - That doesn't preclude using dired-guess-shell.  It might just mean
>   that we should have maybe an alist for "run command" and another alist
>   for "open command" (and maybe a third alist to share the many common
>   cases between the two).

Big NO for having an alist (within Emacs) for the open command.

The alist is already maintained by the user's desktop (likely via
Explore->`Open with' -> `Always use this application for these files').
Emacs should at no point in time have any knowledge of this association.

To accommodate other systems which are non-desktopy (DOS?), we can
enhance the shell-command history var to be a (cons FILE-EXTENSION
VIEWER).  This will be an exception rather than the norm.

>         Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2013-04-04 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-01  6:57 bug#14110: 24.3.50; Add command to open files outside of Emacs (use xdg-open, open etc) Jambunathan K
2002-01-01  0:28 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-01  7:42 ` Leo Liu
2013-04-01  8:06   ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-01 13:31     ` Leo Liu
2013-04-01 20:23       ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04  1:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04  3:25   ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04 12:22     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 14:34       ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-04 16:24         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-04 17:52           ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2013-04-04 18:20             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-04-05  4:58               ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-05  6:03               ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-04-10  4:30                 ` Jambunathan K
2013-04-10  5:39                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-04-05  6:53         ` Leo Liu

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