From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Learn Emacs Lisp in 15 minutes Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:38:52 +0200 Message-ID: <878v0u4scj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374763155 27284 80.91.229.3 (25 Jul 2013 14:39:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 14:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Rustom Mody Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 16:39:16 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V2MhC-0007EY-8E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:39:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2MhB-0003Am-Tb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39953) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Mgy-0003AK-9V for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:39:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Mgw-0004lM-HK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:38:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::231]:55916) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V2Mgw-0004kz-Az for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 10:38:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id y10so1100510wgg.16 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date :message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=VphgiWkXyVMbvxDSDpaTEamdJNq/ALG+rDS7jDFskBg=; b=L9l9IaEH9WnAO4lOI/QejgBLfV1sK6JSVU28utMztaQS7KfWkujtBADIdXRfGGRSVf NM5uiebdszax5Bf0XnHWA1cPEbqL8E+tIa4eYc6o/VJESTHwMkF2v/gsNkvtMtNPpRXO Ds+L5NOSkVSuHKtWKcD14q5VBwp8QF8uSmG3fBQWjatUuT6MuHrzXFNxPAuKXuzs3tlM r5/LDH0NMSlaaW6BG/HT7fBX4m6tqWy15NoVFmsQ6SFsPC6JXY9kOtwLIdK3k122tHc8 EvxtTa3aFVBC8oxmzhlm5q2iAX1hnzUDlfK2u1oKwvemOi1YREdg5HtLbBHFUEefww1k MsjA== X-Received: by 10.180.92.1 with SMTP id ci1mr2383662wib.14.1374763133178; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 07:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x2sm4200919wif.3.2013.07.25.07.38.51 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 25 Jul 2013 07:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 94F581C200E4; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:38:52 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Rustom Mody's message of "Thu, 25 Jul 2013 06:41:28 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::231 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92400 Archived-At: Hi Rustom, Rustom Mody writes: > Elisp is 2 things: > 1. A scripting framework for the emacs editor > 2. A full-scale (turing complete) programming language > > Your intro emphasises 1 more than 2. Agreed -- the tutorial targets new potential users, and even non-computer folks. (I wrote it first for a friend who wants to learn programming, but does not know where to start.) I'm not sure a non-computer guy/girl can really make sense of the difference you point, although I acknowledge i's important. Dunno. > How to balance more and yet stay within the 15 minutes constraint... > Well dunno... :-) > If I think of something I'll tell Thanks so far! -- Bastien