From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:33:19 +0900 Message-ID: <878uvy50w0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386286410 17171 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 23:33:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:33:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 00:33:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoiQK-0003Np-7h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2013 00:33:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56666 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoiQJ-0007ik-Pl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33539) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoiQC-0007gk-I8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoiQ7-0004x5-0v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:52125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoiQ6-0004v5-Gy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 18:33:22 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546EA9708E0; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:33:19 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 466041A5205; Fri, 6 Dec 2013 08:33:19 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166138 Archived-At: Tom writes: > Stefan Monnier iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > > > > > > Stepping on each other's toes simply means the later exiting emacs > > > overwrites the other's history file. > > > > Thus losing history info, yes. But it's not that simple. You may get > > prompted (apparently "out of nowhere") if the two processes happen to > > write "at the same time". > > Can this warning be suppressed and have the history overwritten without > a warning? If so then it's a simple fix (shells do the same thing) and > makes it possible to enable this feature by default. Emacs is not a shell. I don't mind losing shell history because it's very repetitive, and long snippets I typically save to my .zshrc or .profile with a history|tail|head|cut pipeline (which itself I really ought to make a shell function for) because I know they'll get tromped if/when I shutdown. > For most users this will do, The word "most" should immediately clue you that this is inappropriate as a default. In particular, I don't use recentf because I have the files in buffers. The desktop file saves them for me on restart. That would be a massive annoyance if that got overwritten because I forgot to use -q on an experimental emacs instance.