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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: chad <chadpbrown@gmail.com>
Cc: Stephen Eglen <S.J.Eglen@damtp.cam.ac.uk>,
	Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 04:45:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878uvpxydi.fsf@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EE2C4044-5DC0-4A77-99E7-8C8A69821982@gmail.com> (chad's message of "Thu, 12 Dec 2013 09:11:45 -0800")

chad <chadpbrown@gmail.com> writes:

> My experience matches this; I've seen multiple people quit using
> ido because of this exact behavior (find-file'ing a new file), and
> also because of how it opens directories in find-file (i.e. it
> doesn't). I believe they ~all liked icomplete.
>
> I would guess that an ido that didn't do this by default is probably
> a more attractive default.

Probably, yes. But that would be a fairly different mode of operation,
doing basically what icomplete does.

> I get that many people prefer ido to iswitchb, and I think it'd be
> great if emacs provided completion by default. I wonder if any of
> the ido fans have tried icomplete?

icomplete is less obtrusive, but ido is definitely more efficient, with
its non-prefix and flex matching.

And, in order to not have to bother with C-j for items not present in
the existing set, with icomplete you always have type or press Tab to
get to the desired item, maybe several times, even if the item is the
first in the list.

Thus, for switching buffers, icomplete is less efficient than both ido
and iswitchb.



  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-13  2:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-29 16:50 Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-29 17:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 18:54   ` Tom
2013-11-29 20:12     ` chad
2013-11-29 20:32     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-29 21:01       ` Tom
2013-11-29 21:40         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-11-29 22:13           ` Tom
2013-11-30  1:59             ` Glenn Morris
2013-11-30  4:00               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30  6:34                 ` Tom
2013-11-30 13:47                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-30 19:10                     ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:01                       ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:13                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01  9:21                           ` Tom
2013-12-01  9:33                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-01 15:44                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-01 16:42                           ` Tom
2013-12-01 19:01                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-02 17:09                               ` Tom
2013-12-02 17:45                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-03 17:05                                   ` Tom
2013-12-03 18:11                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 18:30                                       ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:18                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-03 19:32                                           ` Tom
2013-12-03 19:55                                         ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA & Survey suggestions(Re: Finding packages to enable by default) Jambunathan K
2013-12-03 20:35                                           ` Tom
2013-12-04  5:04                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  5:29                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 15:50                                               ` [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-04 15:48                                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05  4:46                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 14:27                                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2013-12-05 14:45                                                 ` joakim
2013-12-05 16:33                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-05 16:56                                                     ` T.V. Raman
2013-12-06  0:49                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  3:28                                                         ` Tom Tromey
2013-12-06  3:49                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05 23:18                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-06  1:34                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  8:26                                       ` Finding packages to enable by default Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  9:13                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04  4:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04  4:21                                       ` Andrew Hyatt
2013-12-04  5:46                                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 16:08                                         ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-04 20:18                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-04 20:32                                             ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:16                                               ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-04 21:36                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05  1:35                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 15:24                                                 ` Davis Herring
2013-12-05 17:10                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-05 18:42                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 23:33                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-04 21:13                                             ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-04 21:18                                               ` Tom
2013-12-04 21:39                                                 ` Tom
2013-12-04 22:09                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-05  7:00                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  8:51                                                 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:25                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 18:57                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-05 23:33                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  0:55                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  2:07                                                         ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  4:28                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06  5:16                                                             ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  5:53                                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  6:05                                                                 ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:37                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:21                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:18                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:20                                                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 11:29                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06 11:42                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06 13:57                                                                     ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06 14:18                                                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  8:09                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-06  8:21                                                         ` martin rudalics
2013-12-06 17:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 17:40                                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-07 22:48                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 17:45                                                                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2013-12-08 21:21                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-10  1:58                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11  3:48                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:09                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:43                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-08 20:23                                                               ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-08 20:50                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-08 22:35                                                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2013-12-09  2:13                                                                 ` ada mode [was Re: Finding packages to enable by default] Glenn Morris
2013-12-12 16:42                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-12 17:44                                                                     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-12-10  2:04                                                                 ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 17:59                                                                   ` Stephen Leake
2013-12-11  3:50                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11  8:13                                                               ` martin rudalics
2013-12-11 11:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 14:13                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 14:44                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-11 15:26                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  4:17                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-06  8:21                                                     ` martin rudalics
2013-12-05  0:28                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-12-05  4:34                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-06  5:37                                             ` Josh
2013-12-06  5:46                                               ` Drew Adams
2013-12-06  6:01                                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-04 21:32                                       ` icomplete-mode vs. iswitchb Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05  1:30                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05  2:05                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-05 12:45                                             ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 13:26                                               ` Bozhidar Batsov
2013-12-05 18:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-08 15:44                                                 ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-10  1:43                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-10  9:56                                                     ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-11 14:07                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-22 18:24                                                         ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-23  1:30                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-27 22:24                                                             ` Mathias Dahl
2013-12-05  8:10                                           ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-05 18:57                                           ` Josh
2013-12-08 19:05                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-08 19:09                                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 18:39                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-10  5:15                                             ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:04                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-11 18:09                                                 ` Josh
2013-12-12  3:33                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 12:07                                                     ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 12:26                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 12:41                                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 16:38                                                         ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:11                                                         ` chad
2013-12-13  2:45                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2013-12-13  2:56                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-13  3:31                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-12-12 18:20                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-12 18:53                                                           ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-12 19:34                                                           ` Josh
2013-12-12 17:15                                                     ` Josh
2013-12-11  4:06                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 16:49                                         ` Stephen Eglen
2013-12-06 17:39                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-06 23:07                                             ` Josh
2013-12-07 13:22                                               ` Stephen Eglen
2013-11-30  6:27               ` Finding packages to enable by default Tom
2013-11-30 19:06                 ` Glenn Morris
2013-12-01  9:10                   ` Tom
2013-12-01 22:55                     ` Richard Stallman
2013-12-02 17:15                       ` Tom
2013-12-05 19:48                         ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-30  5:34         ` Josh
2013-11-30  6:03           ` Jambunathan K
2013-12-09 11:21 ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-16 12:07   ` Alex Schroeder
2013-12-17 10:34     ` Jambunathan K
2014-06-19 15:26       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-19 22:54         ` Drew Adams
2014-06-19 23:57         ` Daimrod
2014-06-20  8:25         ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20  9:25           ` Thorsten Jolitz
2014-06-20 12:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 13:38             ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 15:17                 ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-20 18:34                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-06-20 19:49                     ` Teemu Likonen
2014-06-21  1:28                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-21 13:18                         ` wcheck-mode (was: Finding packages to enable by default) Teemu Likonen
2014-07-07 14:07                           ` wcheck-mode Stefan Monnier
2014-06-20 14:44               ` Finding packages to enable by default Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  9:11             ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 21:51         ` Juri Linkov
2014-06-25  9:12           ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-06-21 22:16         ` Glenn Morris

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