From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to set up Emacs as a mail client (with mail saved/filed on an IMAP server) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:43:01 +0100 Message-ID: <878uu5u8oq.fsf@thinkpad-t61.fritz.box> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390549405 20623 80.91.229.3 (24 Jan 2014 07:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 07:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: nljlistbox2@gmail.com Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 24 08:43:32 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6bQK-0006sZ-FM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 08:43:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44903 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6bQK-0005MK-2N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6bQ3-0005Ls-UI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6bPx-0001Gb-0N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:15 -0500 Original-Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:39528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6bPw-0001GF-K3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:08 -0500 Original-Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39B5E20889 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:07 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=smtpout; bh=JvGOXgbdkzUCF4NwyU8ItF frT/I=; b=uP1RYicpV9eo9PcRh34UJT8YcLsTK5Ti8Y8TDGuIbYTz8xnbkZCatV eWwk8TedvXf+gQt01O0Dysh5T7YoC+Se00pKxKwIZysRRfZ5480tovWiLUDz8rDy OqVUepW2GdU6IWHSJq5Yxk2tPB3WZJb/NT0O4dBHDsc8KYaehCSec= X-Sasl-enc: Rq24v8qo6+QqrjdCOu7cRUG3pe9+ngbnG1ujKr3PjzaI 1390549387 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t61.fritz.box (unknown [95.88.145.206]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 37BD7C00E7F; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 02:43:07 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (nljlistbox2@gmail.com's message of "Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:35:30 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 66.111.4.28 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:95603 Archived-At: nljlistbox2@gmail.com writes: Hi! > 1. Gnus: It has often been observed that mail and news are similar > creatures, so that it makes sense to handle mail in a system built for > handling news. Certainly there are similarities. However, when I've > read a news article in Gnus, it disappears. That suits me well > enough. But I don't want the mail in my inbox to disappear once it's > been read. I'd like to be able to see both my read and unread mail in > my inbox and have the two distinguished in some way. Doable? I'm > guessing it is, but the second issue has precluded me looking up how > to do it. ,----[ C-h v gnus-fetch-old-headers RET ] | gnus-fetch-old-headers is a variable defined in `gnus-sum.el'. | Its value is some | Original value was nil |=20 | Documentation: | *Non-nil means that Gnus will try to build threads by grabbing old header= s. | If an unread article in the group refers to an older, already | read (or just marked as read) article, the old article will not | normally be displayed in the Summary buffer. If this variable is | t, Gnus will attempt to grab the headers to the old articles, and | thereby build complete threads. If it has the value `some', all | old headers will be fetched but only enough headers to connect | otherwise loose threads will be displayed. This variable can | also be a number. In that case, no more than that number of old | headers will be fetched. If it has the value `invisible', all | old headers will be fetched, but none will be displayed. |=20 | The server has to support NOV for any of this to work. |=20 | This feature can seriously impact performance it ignores all | locally cached header entries. Setting it to t for groups for a | server that doesn't expire articles (such as news.gmane.org), | leads to very slow summary generation. `---- You can also enter the summary buffer using `C-u RET' instead of just `RET'. That will show you the latest of articles in the group, no matter if new or read. > 2. Gnus again: As far as I've been able to ascertain (and of course I > might be mistaken), Gnus does not support IMAP. Of course Gnus does IMAP. ,----[ (info "(gnus)Using IMAP") ] | The most popular mail backend is probably =E2=80=98nnimap=E2=80=99, which= provides | access to IMAP servers. IMAP servers store mail remotely, so the client | doesn=E2=80=99t store anything locally. This means that it=E2=80=99s a c= onvenient | choice when you=E2=80=99re reading your mail from different locations, or= with | different user agents. `---- > To be sure it will download mail from an IMAP server (I have that set > up already), but that is not my use case. Seems you are using `mail-sources' instead of nnimap. > I want it to allow me to read the mail in my IMAP inboxes, delete it > on the rare occasions that I want to do that, or file it in other > folders on the IMAP server. Did I miss something, or am I correct in > thinking Gnus lacks the ability to interact with an IMAP server in > that way? Yes, you are wrong. Check its manual (info "(gnus)Using IMAP"). Bye, Tassilo