From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: trentbuck@gmail.com (Trent W. Buck) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: List packages Status column terminology Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:32:15 +1100 Message-ID: <878uu4sv6o.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87bnzbi4ti.fsf@gmail.com> <87sisemfos.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390613554 2858 80.91.229.3 (25 Jan 2014 01:32:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:32:34 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 25 02:32:40 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6y-0003ft-8r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:32:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49572 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6x-0006Sm-P6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:32:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36201) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6q-0006Sg-1B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:32:37 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6k-000897-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:32:31 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:48970) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6k-00088l-1v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:32:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W6s6j-0003aQ-2q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:32:25 +0100 Original-Received: from ppp118-209-99-230.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net ([118.209.99.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:32:25 +0100 Original-Received: from trentbuck by ppp118-209-99-230.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 2014 02:32:25 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-209-99-230.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:169036 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> For comparison, aptitude uses these terms: > [...] >> They appear horizontally as grouping elements in a tree view, >> so they use up one line each instead of umpteen columns. > > That's a good presentation, since it saves a column (in exchange for > a few extra lines). The downsides: > - incompatible with "sort by name", where we want to see the various > versions (built-in, obsolete, and new ones) together. aptitude deals with that by letting you turn off the grouping (you still see the code-letters status column). Although, normally I would be doing sorting with "aptitude search | sort | ..." which doesn't group by default. Should probably look at other distro package managers, too; ICBF.