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[98.229.61.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w9sm9061840qax.3.2014.02.13.13.32.24 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 13 Feb 2014 13:32:25 -0800 (PST) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:12:26 -0500, Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:37:50 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85526 Archived-At: On Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:12:26 -0500 Stefan Monnier wrote:=20 >> Why should it? SM> Because the finder keywords are not magical. They're just a starting SM> point for very general classification. But it makes a lot of sense to SM> put an "ocaml" keyword on ocaml-mode, tuareg-mode and merlin since all SM> 3 provide functionality for ocaml. Similarly it makes a lot of sense to SM> use a "completion" keyword for company, icomplete, auto-complete, SM> completion-ui, semantic, etc... SM> What I mean is that there's no reason to separate the two. What the UI SM> could do, OTOH is to only "buttonize" those keywords that appear in more SM> than one package. OK, but the original report here was to prune these keywords. So do I fix the UI (since I created the buttons) as you suggest or do I prune the keywords as Glenn suggested? SM> Stefan "who doesn't like the finder keywords very much anyway. SM> I mean, =ABconvenience=BB? =ABtools=BB?" Yes, I agree, and extra points for the fancy quotations :) Ted