From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Trunk still not open Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:27:12 +0530 Message-ID: <878us6ei3r.fsf@gmail.com> References: <6xwqfxhl88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83txb1mcsy.fsf@gnu.org> <87siqlku0i.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87wqfxari2.fsf@yandex.ru> <87zjksrvqr.fsf@yandex.ru> <834n2zdf3s.fsf@gnu.org> <87wqfukd7v.fsf@gmail.com> <83mwgqazjj.fsf@gnu.org> <87pplmdkbl.fsf@gmail.com> <83ha6xc3al.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9cpl8x3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395215726 2615 80.91.229.3 (19 Mar 2014 07:55:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 07:55:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. 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Turnbull's message of "Mon, 17 Mar 2014 13:56:56 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170518 Archived-At: Stephen Thanks for this note. I can put these links to some use. I MAY take up http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2012-08/msg00308.html. A lot depends on how mature a conversation senior developers, old timers and the staunch loyalist can hold. PS: This is a list of elites who would ascend their throne to make their arguments forceful. Being an ass myself, I dislike elites :-). "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > To the extent that you want lower-level details from the horse's > mouth, somebody will probably have to interview Richard (general > Emacs), Gerd (redisplay), and Ken'ichi (MULE), among others (those are > the areas where I know a particular person did a lot of design by > themselves, but I don't have comprehensive knowledge of Emacs) but > Richard's paper > > http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-paper.html > > is a pretty good start on the "whys" and many of the higher-level > "hows" of Emacs design. Also > > http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/internals.html > > is in great part relevant, with many lower-level details that are > applicable to Emacs as well. It is quite incomplete and there are > piles of junk that are basically old block comments mover there from > the source, but I still find it useful when I read Emacs C code.