From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: POP3 password in plaintext?
Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2014 15:15:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878ul0hqxk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1XZJPv-0003OC-23@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 01 Oct 2014 08:54:03 -0400")
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
> Transparent STARTTLS on demand would seem useless against
> man-in-the-middle attacks. It's just good against eavesdropping on
> unintercepted traffic. And you don't even need to be true
> man-in-the-middle: you just need to be faster answering the STARTTLS
> negotiation.
>
> Are other protocols for fetching mail better
> in security?
>
> David Caldwell <david@porkrind.org> wrote:
>
> Modern POP/IMAP clients tend to have a checkbox or a setting to require
> SSL/TLS when connecting. If the protocol doesn't start TLS (and isn't
> connected to an SSL port) then it is considered a connection error. This
> setting is configured up-front, at the same time that the user
> configures the server name and port. In this day and age it might make
> sense to have such a checkbox default to "on".
>
> That makes sense -- if STARTTLS in POP3 is fundamentally adequate.
> But if Kastrup is right, that isn't so.
My bet is on Kastrup not being right. But I'd be interested to know
why.
--
David Kastrup
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-01 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-09-29 20:49 POP3 password in plaintext? Richard Stallman
2014-09-30 1:46 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-09-30 13:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 19:23 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 4:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 5:33 ` David Kastrup
2014-10-01 12:54 ` Richard Stallman
2014-10-01 13:15 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2014-10-01 17:56 ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01 5:42 ` David Caldwell
2014-10-01 13:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-02 1:58 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-02 17:04 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-10-03 10:54 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-10-01 13:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 14:02 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-10-01 14:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-10-01 23:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-09-30 14:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2014-09-30 19:25 ` Richard Stallman
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