From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19564: 24.4; eieio backward compatibility Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:27:16 +0000 Message-ID: <878uh6ya3v.fsf@violet.siamics.net> References: <87oaq5sq0h.fsf@gmail.com> <87r3v01qwg.fsf@gmail.com> <87oaq2x3gb.fsf@gmail.com> <871tmyu43b.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421162898 11670 80.91.229.3 (13 Jan 2015 15:28:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:28:18 +0000 (UTC) To: 19564@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 13 16:28:13 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3O8-0001Lq-LC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 16:28:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39850 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3O8-0004G9-0F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45236) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3O2-0004Ck-SX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:28:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3Nz-0003ye-NZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:28:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46674) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3Ny-0003ww-CP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:28:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3Nx-0002z2-SA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:28:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ivan Shmakov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19564 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19564-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19564.142116285111422 (code B ref 19564); Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19564) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2015 15:27:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55535 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3NS-0002y9-Mb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:27:31 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([78.47.74.50]:49176) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3NQ-0002y0-5G for 19564@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:27:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=O17lkELdRPTlh6XfijdwUA0NKfBFZx2MMAP20AC+7p8=; b=pKwydA77DeByxQ9W/p+gQJPAacMqfTEuzfaQ3JWR0yqnoLmiHYM3k9KWpumTXxvrgtEuaiKrbystmEZPnmfxZxQR0SysqZveaPYoYtCJFMb6eXSxbz+oOiXMDdutiAB5OBugpIyxWPZ6makabkpndjqsGqQorr6kh7drPl5z4vA=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3NN-0000np-Ft for 19564@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:27:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YB3NF-0003IF-U7 for 19564@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Jan 2015 22:27:18 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: 19564@debbugs.gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 13 Jan 2015 10:01:37 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:98302 Archived-At: >>>>> "TZ" =3D=3D Ted Zlatanov writes: >>>>> On Tue, 13 Jan 2015 15:50:48 +0100 Thierry Volpiatto wrote: >>>>> Ted Zlatanov writes: [=E2=80=A6] TZ> Forgive my ignorance: is that compatibility guaranteed or TZ> beneficial? TV> No, but that's mean that now with these recent changes all people TV> using helm will have errors in their helm packages when switching TV> emacs-version until they reinstall all; And for sure they will not TV> reinstall and I expect tons of bugreport in next weeks... (I TV> crossfingers hoping I am wrong) TZ> Maybe Emacs needs a shell-level way to recompile all or some TZ> installed packages? The approach used in Debian is that the Debian =E2=80=9Cbinary=E2=80=9D pa= ckages contain only the source code (.el), and the respective byte-compiled (.elc) files are produced at the installation time, =E2=80=93 for /each/ of the installed Emacs versions. So, when, say, gnugo.el is installed, in addition to /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/gnugo.el, the following files may also appear on the filesystem (depending on the versions of Emacs installed on the system): /usr/share/emacs25/site-lisp/gnugo.elc /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/gnugo.elc /usr/share/emacs23/site-lisp/gnugo.elc =E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99m not sure whether Emacs itself handles it well when it comes to, say, C-h f. And frankly, for backup purposes, I=E2=80=99d rather prefer all that to go under /var/cache instead. (And the same for __pycache__, etc.) --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A