From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gnuplot (was: Re: zsh outside of Emacs) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:36:19 +0000 Message-ID: <878ug3kg9o.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87iof9f6qk.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423708620 30583 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2015 02:37:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 03:36:46 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLjdz-00023z-Aq for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 03:36:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47890 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLjdx-0004wE-KT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:36:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57126) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLjdj-0004ve-Sw for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:36:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLjde-0001Tv-QK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:36:27 -0500 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp04.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.35]:50785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLjde-0001Th-KV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:36:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail05.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.26]) by outbound-smtp04.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D403F988C2 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 02:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 7518 invoked from network); 12 Feb 2015 02:36:20 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[109.76.224.229]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 12 Feb 2015 02:36:20 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87iof9f6qk.fsf@debian.uxu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Wed, 11 Feb 2015 04:48:51 +0100) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.35 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102658 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: ... > > Do you mean gnuplot-mode has a missing/conflicting > license, or gnuplot has? With gnuplot that should be > OK as there are built-in modes for God knows what > technologies that most likely have licenses all over > the place, including none at all. I don't know why it's not included. Possible reasons: * The Emacs developers don't think it's important enough. * It has a non GPL license. * The Emacs developers can't get copyright assignment for it. The FSF generally require that Emacs coders assign copyright to them. Unless it's a small change it's not considered good enough to just use the GPLv3 license. As far as I understand it, there are two reasons for that. Firstly, it enables them to easily re-license the code. That could happen if a legal flaw is found in a license, for example GPLv3 was created to rectify problems with GPLv2. The other advantage is that it prevents programmers from being able to relicense their contributions and request that they're removed. What sometimes happens is that an elisp package is initially unpopular. But, the author gathers contributions from many people. Then the package becomes popular and people want it in the core or ELPA. But by that time the author can't find all the people to contact to ask for copyright paperwork, or there are so many of them that it isn't practical. You could try asking for it to be included in the core it may be possible. BR, Robert Thorpe