From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:05:54 +0200 Message-ID: <878uefdhkt.fsf@wanadoo.es> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87pp7x2jav.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87d23s4nt4.fsf@debian.uxu> <7e8ddf8f-163a-4d16-9ce2-25b0cb3f35aa@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427638001 22702 80.91.229.3 (29 Mar 2015 14:06:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2015 14:06:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 29 16:06:29 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDr8-00013R-5D for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:06:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDr7-0006sV-Am for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:06:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDqw-0006pe-BN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDqr-00014j-Cg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:06:14 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34721) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDqr-00014H-5y for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 10:06:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YcDqk-0000hV-36 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:06:02 +0200 Original-Received: from 171.red-80-26-206.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net ([80.26.206.171]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:06:02 +0200 Original-Received: from ofv by 171.red-80-26-206.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 29 Mar 2015 16:06:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 171.red-80-26-206.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:pryiLSSUbYD2KjjYmiSSOcLXVGQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103424 Archived-At: Rusi writes: [snip] > And even Elisp! > > *** Welcome to IELM *** Type (describe-mode) for help. > ELISP> (setq α 1 β 2 γ 3) > 3 (#o3, #x3, ?\C-c) > ELISP> (list α β γ) > (1 2 3) Some months ago I experimented with using Unicode on my coding. I was very excited about it. At the end, the experience showed without a doubt that it is a bad idea. One of the reasons is very familiar to us: a funtamental feature of a programmer's font is how clearly it distinguishes 1 from l, 0 from O. Using Unicode makes this problem explode. > ELISP> > > How much costly was that α to type than alpha?? One backslash!! > > Add to that the fact that programs are read > - 10 times more than written during development > - 100 times more during maintenance Precisely, my experience is that Unicode makes things much harder to read, and not ony because the problem mentioned above.