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From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Long file names in Dired
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 23:10:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878udhgrlv.fsf@mbork.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8xxgryo.fsf@mbork.pl>


On 2015-04-24, at 23:02, Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> wrote:

> See above.  Due to the idiocy of the " and " approach, even if there
> were a method of declaring different languages for different fields, it
> wouldn't help here.  This is not about scripts, but about
> e.g. hyphenation patterns (which are language-dependent), or decomposing
> names into parts (which BibTeX /the program/ can't do correctly anyway,
> and the format doesn't help a lot, either).

Oh, and I found the discussion I wanted to link here (it's on the
ConTeXt mailing list, and it shows how nontrivial the "name decomposing"
thing is /even for European languages/, which many (mistakenly) consider
"simple"):

http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2015/080687.html

Again, BibTeX (both the format and the program) just butchers
non-English names, and doesn't care.  (I'm not sure about the
BibLaTeX+Biber combo, but I'm afraid that it's similar.)  I guess it
/is/ possible to overcome this with some quoting (or "bracing";-)), but
still: the "First, von, Last, jr" model is just too simplistic.

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science
Adam Mickiewicz University



  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-24 21:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.1494.1429830642.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-24  1:26 ` Long file names in Dired Emanuel Berg
2015-04-24  9:01   ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-24  9:12     ` Rasmus
2015-04-24  9:37       ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-24 10:19         ` Rasmus
2015-04-24 21:02           ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-24 21:10             ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
     [not found]   ` <mailman.1511.1429866115.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-25  1:29     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-25  8:18       ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]       ` <mailman.1581.1429950075.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-25 11:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-03 22:59           ` Marcin Borkowski
     [not found]           ` <mailman.2273.1430694000.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-05-04  0:22             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-05-04  0:41               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-23 23:10 Marcin Borkowski
2015-04-24  0:38 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-24  6:29 ` Eli Zaretskii

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