From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Upcoming loss of usability of Emacs source files and Emacs. Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:02 +0200 Message-ID: <878ubg3mbp.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <20150615142237.GA3517@acm.fritz.box> <87y4jkhqh5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <557F3C22.4060909@cs.ucla.edu> <5580D356.4050708@cs.ucla.edu> <87si9qonxb.fsf@gnu.org> <87ioamz8if.fsf@petton.fr> <32013464-2300-46c6-ba46-4a3c36bfee5d@default> <87twu62nnt.fsf@mbork.pl> <21890.22217.610318.184683@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <83vbellgb7.fsf@gnu.org> <86vbel7wxf.fsf@dod.no> <837fr0ly7a.fsf@gnu.org> <86pp4s996u.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1434652003 14032 80.91.229.3 (18 Jun 2015 18:26:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:26:43 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 18 20:26:36 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5eWC-00010b-Kl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54413 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5eWB-0003aP-Mt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:26:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5eVy-0003a4-MK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:26:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5eVu-0008D8-BR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:26:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:33249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Z5eVu-0008D3-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:26:10 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF794F607F for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uo4R2k0tV2OP for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [109.232.24.146]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48FB24F607B for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:06 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <86pp4s996u.fsf@dod.no> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187290 Archived-At: On 2015-06-18, at 20:13, Steinar Bang wrote: >>>>>> Eli Zaretskii : > >>> In a search engine hits with "aa" instead of "=C3=A5" would be expect= ed, >>> but in emacs search I would only expect to hit "=C3=A5" and "=C3=85") > >> You might, but others might have other expectations. They should be >> able to have them. > > I'm pretty sure all native users of "=C3=A5" would never wish a search = to hit > "a" (of course... being able to search for "=C3=A5" in the first place,= is > progress...).=20 However, many non-native users might wish for that. Use case: a bibliography for a scientific article, written in Emacs + AUCTeX + LaTeX, containing *lots* of completely foreign names, with the author having *completely* no idea how the native users treat these letters - he only want to look for that name containing an "=C3=A5", and doesn't ev= en know which input method/code point/whatever can be used to actually type this letter. Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University