From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: reftex.el autoloads
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:52:52 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878u4onke3.fsf@russet.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <la8u4obq4w.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 20 Dec 2015 19:29:35 -0500")
Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:
> Phillip Lord wrote:
>
>>> What's special about dired here?
>>
>> I'm working on the assumption that the problems I had with dired.el have
>> been fixed and where a straight-forward bootstrap problem.
>
> I don't know what that means.
Oh, that dired.el was used somewhere during the bootstrap build before
dired-loaddefs.el is generated.
cl-lib.el has the same problem. It deals with it like so:
(unless (load "cl-loaddefs" 'noerror 'quiet)
;; When bootstrapping, cl-loaddefs hasn't been built yet!
(require 'cl-macs)
(require 'cl-seq))
I took a punt and guessed that the dired autoloaded functions are not
needed during bootstrap so used the simpler approach.
>>> Ie, could the same thing happen with other files?
>>
>> What is special is that the diary (and all the calendar) files have four
>
> My question was about dired. Why does dired need special handling?
AFAICT, it's because of vc.el which requires dired.el. This is needed by
find-file-noselect to open loaddefs.el.
>> I don't know enough about calendar to know why it needs such a complex
>> set of autoloads, although I do wonder whether it still does.
>
> Nothing has changed, so yes it does. It's worked fine for years.
> Though when I tried to say this earlier in this discussion, I didn't succeed.
You did succeed. I did listen, and did take the issue seriously. At the
same time, I felt that there was a build irritation that was worth
removing. If no one else had agreed, I probably would not have touched
it, out of respect for your concerns.
>> I guess the best I can do at the moment is change
>>
>> EMACSOPT = -batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp
>>
>> to
>>
>> EMACSOPT = -batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp --debug
>
> No, just make the autoload-generate-file-autoloads condition-case handler
> print some debug info when it encounters end-of-file error.
>
>> Is it possible to get hydra to build another branch (called test or
>> something)? In the ideal world, I'd rather not do this sort of mucking
>> around on master.
>
> hydra isn't a good fit for this kind of testing.
I am stuck reproducing the bug elsewhere.
>> And, in an entirely unrelated question, why is that "-batch" and not
>> "--batch"?
>
> They are equivalent.
Ok.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-21 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-10 11:03 reftex.el autoloads Phillip Lord
2015-12-10 14:48 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-12-10 16:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:52 ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-10 22:07 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 7:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-11 15:38 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-10 22:03 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 7:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-11 15:35 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 16:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-11 17:08 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 17:46 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-11 18:20 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 20:03 ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-12 18:24 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-12 18:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 18:56 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-12 19:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 21:15 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-13 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-13 20:33 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-13 21:50 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-13 22:11 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-15 19:33 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-16 17:15 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-17 2:15 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-17 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-17 16:07 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-17 21:31 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-18 16:39 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-18 17:12 ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-18 20:55 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-18 21:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 21:51 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-19 7:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-18 22:05 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-19 7:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-19 13:24 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-20 12:41 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-20 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-20 18:41 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-20 18:37 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-20 23:04 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-21 0:24 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-21 10:32 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-22 10:55 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-21 6:45 ` martin rudalics
2015-12-21 10:31 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-18 20:45 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-18 21:22 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-20 18:41 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-20 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-21 0:22 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-20 23:15 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-21 0:29 ` Glenn Morris
2015-12-21 10:52 ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2015-12-17 5:57 ` Paul Eggert
2015-12-17 12:07 ` Phillip Lord
2015-12-11 17:34 ` David Engster
2015-12-11 17:39 ` Glenn Morris
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