From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Help setting up POP3 email (rmail) Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:56:55 +0100 Message-ID: <878u29u0fs.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87si0h97kg.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456358250 11602 80.91.229.3 (24 Feb 2016 23:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 23:57:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 25 00:57:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjJ3-0002n4-7S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:57:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39119 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjJ2-0000SC-S8 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:57:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51789) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjIq-0000Rt-QK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjIn-0002Hn-JI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:57:08 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:37434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjIn-0002Hb-CU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2016 18:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYjIk-0002aH-N7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:57:02 +0100 Original-Received: from nl106-137-170.student.uu.se ([130.243.137.170]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:57:02 +0100 Original-Received: from embe8573 by nl106-137-170.student.uu.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:57:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: nl106-137-170.student.uu.se Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9H5CPZHI76tGzEhzuEgbeP1INfw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:109302 Archived-At: Robert Thorpe writes: >> Thanks for the quick response. Is wondering if it >> was strictly necessary to enter my password inside >> my code, wouldn't it be a major security issue? > > It can be a security issue, though most graphical > mail clients store it in a config file somewhere, > which is just as bad. "Security thru obscurity" isn't as secure as giving authentication each time from your brain and fingertips only. Question is, just how much more insecure is it? If you have to give your password many times a day this is a frustration and time waste trade-off with security. Unless you enjoy typing the password, of course :) Also, consider people can wire your keyboard or shoulder-surf as you type. Especially if you do it repeatedly in a public place, it is even more shaky. All in all, I consider this cloak-and-dagger game exaggerated. It is the self-image that one is so important and everyone else so corrupted (and brilliant) they'd do anything to get ones data. I have lived many lives (just like Mdm. Kollontai) but I have yet to see this scenario realize. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573