From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Stefan Huchler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Strange eval behaviour Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 00:57:03 +0100 Message-ID: <878tsbxe40.fsf@mail.de> References: <87vavrul0k.fsf@mail.de> <878tsl1p7b.fsf@mail.de> <878tshjyvy.fsf@web.de> <87shqo68ai.fsf@mail.de> <87lgwgl6kd.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1479873649 30951 195.159.176.226 (23 Nov 2016 04:00:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2016 04:00:49 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 23 05:00:46 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9Ojl-00077Z-NZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 05:00:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59377 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9Ojm-0004XZ-SG for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 23:00:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50037) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9KwB-0003rX-84 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9Kw7-0003hq-D5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=33894 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c9Kw7-0003hb-6X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:57:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9Kvx-0005qU-Ae for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2016 00:57:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:nkTIflJB6Ep02YSUBCiEpn6PnL4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 22:59:04 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:111766 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: >> yes that was my idea about bytecompiling in general not elisp >> specific, but if macros dont throw errors cause stuff only get >> evaluated if its bytecompiled thats really hard to debug, or it seems >> at least to me :) > > I'm not sure if I understand what you mean here... > If code only throughs errors when you bytecompile it but not when you evaluate it, or run it, its hard to find the error. Aperently that happens with such macros like function*?