From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mark Oteiza Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC menu ? 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[173.64.125.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm45610qky.1.2017.07.06.04.27.13 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 06 Jul 2017 04:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 88FE568E78; Thu, 6 Jul 2017 07:27:12 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:51:46 +0900") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:216208 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > Why is the VC menu hidden in the Tool menu when it's such an important item in an emacs workflow? Couldn't we have VC as a standard base menu? > > I just discovered that the command John Wiegley suggested to use in an > answer to a recent query of mine was *right under my nose* in the > Tools/Version Control menu. If the VC menu had been next to Tool (just > like other mode menus are) I would have probably tried a few commands > there before asking... Yes, and let's further add top-level menu items for every other important tool in Emacs workflows. That way, the menu shows every useful thing at once, and is simultaneously cumbersome to the point of unusability. Sarcasm aside, if you had ever flipped through the Emacs manual or scrolled through a list of keybindings, you would have been aware of VC.