Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday I find that I cannot open
some of my files in emacs. This is the case in point -

 [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]] 

On Monday that link would open the file in emacs, today, it doesn't and
the only change is the new emacs version.

So how do I fix it or get round it please?

To avoid cross-posting I'm going to send this email separately to the
'org-mode' list.

Thanks
Sharon.

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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[tomas]

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:48:43AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> 
> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday I find that I cannot open
> some of my files in emacs. This is the case in point -
> 
>  [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]] 
> 
> On Monday that link would open the file in emacs, today, it doesn't and
> the only change is the new emacs version.

So your problem is with org following that link?

What happens if you try to open the file "directly" (that is,
with C-x C-f or via the menu File -> Visit New File...?)

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Sharon Kimble]

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<tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:

> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:48:43AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday I find that I cannot open
>> some of my files in emacs. This is the case in point -
>> 
>>  [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]] 
>> 
>> On Monday that link would open the file in emacs, today, it doesn't and
>> the only change is the new emacs version.
>
> So your problem is with org following that link?
>
> What happens if you try to open the file "directly" (that is,
> with C-x C-f or via the menu File -> Visit New File...?)
>
Thanks Tomas for replying.

C-x C-f foo opens the file okay, but I would like to be able to open it
from the org link. I'll see what the org list says.

Thanks
Sharon
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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Emanuel Berg]

Sharon Kimble wrote:

> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday
> I find that I cannot open some of my files in
> emacs. This is the case in point

It is common and understandable that a thing or
two breaks with updates. Ironically... But you
can't make an omelet without cracking the eggs.

> [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]
>
> On Monday that link would open the file in
> emacs, today, it doesn't and the only change
> is the new emacs version.

Do you get an error message and if so what
does it say?

> To avoid cross-posting I'm going to send this
> email separately to the 'org-mode' list.

... interesting. I'd say that amounts to
cross-posting, and if you de facto do it, might
as well use the forbidden method in all glory.
Cross-posting isn't always bad. Here, at least
I'd say it's OK. You can use the
Followup-To: header to narrow the ensuing
conversation, or just put both lists/groups
there as well :)

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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Sharon Kimble]

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Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble wrote:
>
>> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday
>> I find that I cannot open some of my files in
>> emacs. This is the case in point
>
> It is common and understandable that a thing or
> two breaks with updates. Ironically... But you
> can't make an omelet without cracking the eggs.
>
>> [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]
>>
>> On Monday that link would open the file in
>> emacs, today, it doesn't and the only change
>> is the new emacs version.
>
> Do you get an error message and if so what
> does it say?

No, there is no error message but it does say in *Messages* 'Running
calligraauthor /home/boudiccas/cron/boudiccas.crontab...done', but it
never completely opens to be able to read the actual file.

Thanks
Sharon
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk  
Debian 9.0, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.3.1, org-mode 9.1

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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Nick Dokos]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes:

> Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
>
>> Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>
>>> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday
>>> I find that I cannot open some of my files in
>>> emacs. This is the case in point
>>
>> It is common and understandable that a thing or
>> two breaks with updates. Ironically... But you
>> can't make an omelet without cracking the eggs.
>>
>>> [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]
>>>
>>> On Monday that link would open the file in
>>> emacs, today, it doesn't and the only change
>>> is the new emacs version.
>>
>> Do you get an error message and if so what
>> does it say?
>
> No, there is no error message but it does say in *Messages* 'Running
> calligraauthor /home/boudiccas/cron/boudiccas.crontab...done', but it
> never completely opens to be able to read the actual file.
>

Why is calligraauthor running? Can you take it out of the
loop altogether?

Can you run it from the command line and see if it completes?  It
seems to pop up a window when I do that, so I'm not sure if emacs is
waiting for the application to finish before continuing.

-- 
Nick

Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Sharon Kimble]

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Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes:
>
>> Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com> writes:
>>
>>> Sharon Kimble wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday
>>>> I find that I cannot open some of my files in
>>>> emacs. This is the case in point
>>>
>>> It is common and understandable that a thing or
>>> two breaks with updates. Ironically... But you
>>> can't make an omelet without cracking the eggs.
>>>
>>>> [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]
>>>>
>>>> On Monday that link would open the file in
>>>> emacs, today, it doesn't and the only change
>>>> is the new emacs version.
>>>
>>> Do you get an error message and if so what
>>> does it say?
>>
>> No, there is no error message but it does say in *Messages* 'Running
>> calligraauthor /home/boudiccas/cron/boudiccas.crontab...done', but it
>> never completely opens to be able to read the actual file.
>>
>
> Why is calligraauthor running? Can you take it out of the
> loop altogether?

calligraauthor is not running until it is called by emacs calling it. 

>
> Can you run it from the command line and see if it completes?  It
> seems to pop up a window when I do that, so I'm not sure if emacs is
> waiting for the application to finish before continuing.

Unfortunately not. calligraauthor opens very easily with no problems on
its own, and it also opens 'boudiccas.crontab' with zero problems once
calligraauthor is launched on its own.

I suspect that there is something hard-wired into the new version of
emacs which forces emacs to open up some links in calligraauthor,
instead of emacs itself, as it used to do with emacs-25.1.

When I compiled this version of emacs I used these commands in this
order -

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
./configure
make
sudo make install
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

Thanks
Sharon.
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A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk  
Debian 9.0, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.3.1, org-mode 9.1

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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Nick Dokos]

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes:

>> Why is calligraauthor running? Can you take it out of the
>> loop altogether?
>
> calligraauthor is not running until it is called by emacs calling it. 
>

Poor choice of words. I meant: something in emacs is calling calligraauthor.
What is that something? Find it and fix it. There is no way that that something
is built-in to emacs. Have you tried with emacs -Q?

>>
>> Can you run it from the command line and see if it completes?  It
>> seems to pop up a window when I do that, so I'm not sure if emacs is
>> waiting for the application to finish before continuing.
>
> Unfortunately not. calligraauthor opens very easily with no problems on
> its own, and it also opens 'boudiccas.crontab' with zero problems once
> calligraauthor is launched on its own.

But if it is started by emacs, emacs may be waiting for it to finish before
it continues.

>
> I suspect that there is something hard-wired into the new version of
> emacs which forces emacs to open up some links in calligraauthor,
> instead of emacs itself, as it used to do with emacs-25.1.
>

I doubt that very much. This is something in your setup. Check your
.mailcap, and the variables that is used to open applications:
org-file-apps and org-file-apps-default-gnus (or -macosz or
-windowsnt, depending on your system).

-- 
Nick

Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Sharon Kimble]

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Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday I find that I cannot open
some of my files in emacs. This is the case in point -

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
 [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]] 
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

On Monday that link would open the file in emacs, today, it doesn't and
the only change is the new emacs version.

So how do I fix it or get round it please?

To avoid cross-posting I'm going to send this email separately to the
'help-gun-emacs' list.

Thanks
Sharon.
-- 
A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk
TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk
DrugFacts = https://www.drugfacts.org.uk  
Debian 9.0, fluxbox 1.3.5-2, emacs 25.3.1, org-mode 9.1




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Re: Unable to open some files in emacs with emacs 25.3.

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Sharon Kimble <boudiccas@skimble.plus.com> writes:

> Ever since updating to emacs 25.3 yesterday I find that I cannot open
> some of my files in emacs. This is the case in point -
>
>  [[~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]
>
> On Monday that link would open the file in emacs, today, it doesn't and
> the only change is the new emacs version.
>
> So how do I fix it or get round it please?

- What is the error message, if any?

- Is it specific to this file? Have you tried with another one?

- What happens if you insert the "file:" prefix, i.e,
  [[file:~/cron/boudiccas.crontab]]?

- How do you "open" the file? Is it with C-c C-o, RET, or something
  else? What happens if you call directly `M-x org-open-at-point'?

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou