From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29291: tramp-test24-file-acl fails on hydra.nixos.org Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:42:50 +0100 Message-ID: <878tf727z9.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87lgj9yz8k.fsf@gmx.de> <87y3n8em79.fsf@gmx.de> <22wp2sv6ag.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510739076 28855 195.159.176.226 (15 Nov 2017 09:44:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:44:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: 29291@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 15 10:44:31 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEuFB-00077r-HJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:42:51 +0100 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:earc0a72lJqI7ByRPnz6D/XnQHpO2kIGfWR0g8UhwMSr2x7MiAk MhnRlcDiHmxZjV9J7hr/MpgX+hgdxFhA0j2aqZDMvpoSVZ32INMk3x2YVdj5Q8L507fOdaG FOSncJTGdrO2bK9neH2ctO/UCnzEMwZJ8hGgewzDvrjANm2roB8X3VqiFCQFMBzqy+w52IQ Wbu65gJEBV5aMnbLCPhXA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9MKx/EnnlBY=:U1u2bSef+GsPRx8JRXCo99 1Jb1EvDmU1SmIcCxj0i+xxNfC0pSVc7j28YY6d6IHW9wUWifuo5iKTCLUv0Iep5L1CqSHZvTr eQ4m1koWP9UhQ8N5hM5Ngk0mpYYoCAqyeWM33k61xhaY8LFAXzv7eep7LvtdjCk6ABH4QNkav HzCt4ktB3zS48gZz8sq5xtBi0Kra6ZR7hgE4HgHHCkrVSqx0f/MkFi74LbgN0PGjCdyR8kLJ0 Kg/9pE7uFfT2D7RqDZ7OdDiwPnPiG1HOMZhQfECpUqJ3EFPDwyFckCBC81RuVtzQxbcKpJxam AZnjUz9guafW1M8ztIde5jafRondLjH1Y7CTg7gN7E8JCxVZgan28CR5jcs9CU4LMvQomDSxh e6PrlpwfcnL8hlLRtlYQaZXSrsiHR70FLANo4Eo5Lb9FtdvMsT/0LkQOdgABo0xxdbzjaGcvz yKyPgLQP1FdOJUgsT61JXPGfTmln36KvLnTbRhJPVOdd0jy4k546r5q5Mr2gygiNGwnoyCzSO zNyF7XKi6akQc0rnRaGprgbZXCAhVtrhhxS2RYSPCxEO+EVJZUUM0v3vLB4ZY8Nyfy6JRc+u6 8rG9DGZ8m7sP/ThHqahjfDqOgeDysKIn9tfZMn7zi/ga+ssZjd512ae5zTGzTOzIiiIXG5TDe DXG4dJSh9mpcKrhiHfxn/slbUnIuQV2PXcImej/Ea9G2vLUlZaLwpOOdI3yKzOkCsGWv9GH9C NbPYcF4id8ft6rNSietbFpaZXwUHASXXaQIZjFXI/1zYRhw3p8RTbLSBWpTnJTpdTcnIJI0D X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:139918 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: Hi Glenn, > I haven't bothered because the Emacs project as a whole seems to have > little interest in hydra.nixos.org, eg apparently having decided to > replace it with some Emacs-specific replacement that doesn't exist yet. > And hydra jobs often remain broken for weeks at a time, due to trivial > mistakes in Emacs, and no-one seems to care (I know you do look at Tramp > issues there). The problem with hydra is that notifications are not visible prominently. Yes, there are emails from the Hydra Build Daemon. But they are unspecific, I cannot see immediately whether I'm concerned. Often, I check whether Tramp tests have failed, or something else I've modified. But this takes too much time, so it is not integrated into the workflow of most Emacs developers. When the email could mention which test case or file has failed, in the subject of the email, more people would care I believe. Or, even more drastic, an Emacs bug shall be generated *automatically*, like the one we are discussing here. > Or you could merge emacs-26 to master, which would be quicker! :) Well, I don't feel much comfortable with git, so I fear I could damage something during merge. That's why I haven't done it yet. But thanks, that you have performed it. Looks like tramp-test24-file-acl still fails. Hmm, maybe there is a serious Tramp bug, indeed. I'll continue to dig. For faster progress, I'll add my traces in the master branch. Best regards, Michael.