From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why are so many great packages not trying to get included in GNU Emacs? Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:10:30 -0700 Message-ID: <878silajdl.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <9mmFgzvrBwjt_n_VJyaJdXINraNi5HsGpwq-0MLeKiJA7kG2BQA4uywrzjyz7lpRS0OZDpjEi8lspOKYUA7P_QsODsDew_8nbH960G55fmY=@protonmail.com> <97DA7804-F647-4A1D-B8E0-AFFE7A324C64@gmail.com> <87d07xamrg.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="81476"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Yuan Fu , ndame , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 01:11:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRl0M-000L5K-2j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 01:11:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44532 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRl0L-0003wU-0N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:11:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35678) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRkza-0003Hv-19 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:10:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRkzK-0003jn-52 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:10:49 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:36366 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRkzJ-0003ip-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 19:10:33 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3C7CFFA098; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 23:10:32 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:24:21 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=52.70.2.18; envelope-from=eric@ericabrahamsen.net; helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/23 17:57:26 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 52.70.2.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247640 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I think it could be even simpler than that: ELPA is built every 24 hours >> right now. If we just registered external repos with ELPA, part of the >> build process could be pulling from those repos automatically, once per >> day. Package authors already have a mechanism for manually triggering a >> release: incrementing the package version number. There's no harm in >> ELPA bringing in new commits from the externals, if the author is still >> in control of when a new version is released. > > I think it's important that we don't "pull" from "random" places like > Github repositories. More specifically, the "push to elpa.git" serves > as a confirmation that someone thinks this code is appropriate for > elpa.git (typically the concern being copyright). It doesn't seem much more random to say "we're adding your repo URL to our list of approved ELPA pull-sources" than to say "you're now free to push whatever you like", does it? An ELPA administrator still has to make that explicit decision to add the URL, so there's still a level of approval?