From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an Emacs User Survey Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2020 19:41:16 -0500 Message-ID: <878scgkz83.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23425"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Adrien Brochard Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 09 02:41:57 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQgTt-00060e-20 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 02:41:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37956 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQgTs-0004ys-2F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2020 20:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41788) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQgTL-0004X7-VO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2020 20:41:24 -0400 Original-Received: from newsp.red-bean.com ([45.79.25.59]:52066 helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kQgTJ-0004Q4-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 Oct 2020 20:41:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=red-bean.com; s=202005newsp; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:Reply-To:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=CY4Zey/idJnoHyxDR7/5SQM4QMax0nsMmXRXQERwEQ4=; t=1602204078; x=1603413678; b=i5Cocs4pdkAMGsbW+BoHv4LHGrdEApFjVsMQGSj7qdGh29AFjZqzhZVBjsbelqKHK+BKE9AEj5 fylZW4KQX3wRRRBmvSGN77wZ+s5LZoZqKWbNVNlGc8S0t1GjmJyQ0WKTeYg5xDlOdlGxLumNnWjTJ OSgK9WSTqKOcpYbmJyIi4dZ7/CK/OgqIcWbRfQzqotVxaTsywu+wJXhpyQLLDIFqCjFu1Jpz4QCY1 1P5g6radh2DLi7N8RWg9uN/R278jr3ORJPPna3Rw9M7UOsm3Do5fwqHSAe8NqpvEq8mcapQ2sORIz IQxiiEiNOd4C6HNTmTsvO8qw9pSI+Y+50b/Iw==; Original-Received: from 99-112-125-163.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net ([99.112.125.163]:38650 helo=floss) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kQgTF-0000g8-Sy; Fri, 09 Oct 2020 00:41:17 +0000 In-Reply-To: <30addebe-999b-c1cc-a8d8-27aba3fac566@gmx.com> (Adrien Brochard's message of "Thu, 8 Oct 2020 11:30:28 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.79.25.59; envelope-from=kfogel@red-bean.com; helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/08 20:41:18 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257239 Archived-At: On 08 Oct 2020, Adrien Brochard wrote: >But the for the platform to collect responses, this is where it gets >difficult. Something like a Google survey might the easiest/cheapest to >make and distribute and will work on most devices, but it obviously has >privacy concerns. On the other hand, doing something like self-hosting a >no-JS form is very time consuming. I was also thinking of allowing >responses via email for people who do not want to bother with a survey >link and then manually reconcile responses. There is a free software web-based survey tool named LimeSurvey: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LimeSurvey - https://github.com/LimeSurvey/LimeSurvey - https://www.limesurvey.org LimeSurvey.org seems to actually be a company that provides commercial hosting. It's not clear to me whether the version they host is just the free software version or whether it has some proprietary bits added, but in any case one could just run the free software version oneself. (I know a project that did so many years ago, and they had a good experience with it, FWIW.) Best regards, -Karl