From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Concern about new binding. Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 10:50:53 -0600 Message-ID: <878s86tnv6.fsf@red-bean.com> References: <20210202134950.vybbpf3iewbymfjo.ref@Ergus> <20210202134950.vybbpf3iewbymfjo@Ergus> Reply-To: Karl Fogel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36258"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ergus Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 02 17:53:25 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6yvc-0009IR-Os for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 17:53:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54424 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6yvb-0000a1-PI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 11:53:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6ytH-0006xi-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 11:51:03 -0500 Original-Received: from sanpietro.red-bean.com ([45.79.25.59]:60086) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1l6ytF-0001jl-Ld for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 11:50:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=red-bean.com; s=202005newsp; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:Reply-To:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=Q9Ep46syLcCPZKMnnpx1iViVuqr2JcrENgkkDOIggbw=; t=1612284656; x=1613494256; b=DwYr/N7Q7mZNDPt0ow/vIPWjgLrP+Lu1EVQWdZDrhpZWRkbNy9U38u+BxnWUla0UHEQFM3kYbM Ue6p9dShVqGxAiAzVQyhj3oG9ikCs5z8UlQDNjYXZC4fJHIVHCwNnmdSWbClm0FlyXRkTJh0xXNIE Cz7WQiuvLcnzyOuSDQDYagwH4/Jpn1X74uH3mxNzd1e83lojtAmv+V1fZ8F6w+xF73/Q1fskhUUTq TtbMOQsl+d/W0S+h5rNIvOt8a0q+a/4l71AimoUiq2hUU0NPeZKiLpVlfrvpwirdW0U4NNl592MJ4 37plUScjZnM3Y0SdJOBZWzICUkJ96XC7ACyIA==; Original-Received: from 99-112-125-163.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net ([99.112.125.163]:37102 helo=floss) by sanpietro.red-bean.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l6ytC-0006U6-PS; Tue, 02 Feb 2021 16:50:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <20210202134950.vybbpf3iewbymfjo@Ergus> (Ergus's message of "Tue, 2 Feb 2021 14:49:50 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=45.79.25.59; envelope-from=kfogel@red-bean.com; helo=sanpietro.red-bean.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263727 Archived-At: On 02 Feb 2021, Ergus wrote: >1) In general `C-x g` is used by magit; I know this is not a >priority (cause magit is an external package), but magit is a >very popular package. While Magit is indeed very popular and valuable, shouldn't it still adhere to convention and avoid binding things in the `C-x' space? That's really a point to be made on the Magit development mailing list, not here, but what I'm saying here is that Emacs shouldn't make special efforts to avoid interfering with package keybindings that violate Emacs's conventions anyway. Magit should instead suggest `C-c g' as an entry point for `magit-status', though a user can bind it however they want of course. I doubt there are any Magit users who would be daunted by the need to set up a keybinding for Magit's entry point. Best regards, -Karl