From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: casouri@gmail.com, alan@idiocy.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
contovob@tcd.ie, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
yandros@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org
Subject: Re: Cleaning out old X11 toolkits?
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2021 10:48:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878s7pwtk2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83mtw6bq86.fsf@gnu.org
>>>>> On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 17:53:29 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> said:
>> Hmm, specifying *initial* frame sizes and positions seems to work, but
>> only if done early enough, such as by setting 'default-frame-alist' in
>> early-init.el. I guess worst case we can destroy frames and recreate
>> them instead of moving them. Someone (Martin?) suggested creating an
>> invisible max-size top-level frame that we could use as the parent for
>> all other frames on pgtk, since pgtk does allow us to move and resize
>> child-frames. I donʼt know if thatʼs actually possible.
Eli> If it's feasible to fix these issues, we should try doing that, so
Eli> that Emacs behaves the same as with other toolkits; controlling the
Eli> position and geometry of a frame is pretty important, I think.
Eli> But if it turns out infeasible to do that on Wayland, we should
Eli> document that fact and move on.
It turns out to be worse than I thought: the pgtk build has problems
with 'width and 'height on the initial frame whether the backend is
XWayland or Wayland (I haven't tested with a pure X11 window
manager). Specifying the position/size of a new frame seems to work ok
though.
More generally, fixing this is not going to be trivial, as
gtk_window_move under Wayland is designed to cause us grief:
<https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=940916>
so one way to get eg desktop.el to work is to ensure that we know the
required size and position of all the frames before we create them.
Robert
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2021-02-06 10:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 11:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-06 11:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-06 12:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-07 12:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-07 13:14 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-09 20:01 ` Alan Third
2021-02-10 8:29 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:00 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:07 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-10 18:17 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:24 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 18:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-10 18:52 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 13:53 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:30 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-11 15:11 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 22:18 ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? chad
2021-02-12 7:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 8:44 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-12 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 9:30 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 9:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:00 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:18 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 21:49 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:03 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-13 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 12:05 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 11:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:38 ` tomas
2021-02-12 13:26 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:57 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-02-15 16:49 ` Sean Whitton
2021-02-12 11:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 10:00 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 10:14 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:14 ` Merging native-comp and pgtk Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 22:29 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-12 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 23:28 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 9:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:10 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 15:48 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 15:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 8:34 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:07 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 18:01 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 18:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 7:33 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 15:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 9:26 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-02-13 12:45 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-16 23:22 ` Phillip Lord
2021-02-17 15:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 17:32 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 18:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 22:20 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-17 22:52 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 23:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 21:47 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 11:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 14:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 20:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 21:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 17:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 18:36 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 19:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 19:32 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 23:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 14:15 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 20:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 4:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 7:42 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12 18:32 ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 9:01 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 12:50 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 9:48 ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2021-02-15 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 16:02 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 16:13 ` tomas
2021-02-15 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 17:20 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 20:09 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 9:02 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 9:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 13:24 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 13:53 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-13 15:49 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 19:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-14 8:35 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 9:33 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-14 17:16 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 22:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 8:17 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-15 9:19 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:39 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 14:43 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:50 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 16:04 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 21:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 12:41 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-14 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 11:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-02-12 13:33 ` James Cloos
2021-02-12 13:49 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 19:19 ` "Fix" sag scaling for hidpi Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 14:01 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-11 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 15:16 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 23:55 ` Alan Third
2021-02-11 2:01 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 17:34 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 20:18 ` Alan Third
2021-02-12 22:47 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:17 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 11:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:54 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 13:09 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 16:00 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 23:30 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 20:09 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 23:14 ` Alan Third
2021-02-14 0:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 2:06 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14 2:09 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-14 12:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 9:58 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 15:59 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:53 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 21:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:13 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 18:29 ` chad
2021-02-13 19:52 ` chad
2021-02-13 20:06 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-13 21:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:20 ` Alan Third
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