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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:276680 Archived-At: Daniel Mart=C3=ADn writes: > Ag Ibragimov writes: > >> And as a side effect, that would also make it possible for better >> navigation and code introspection of Elisp outside of Emacs. > > I think this is a good point, but I don't expect there is a lot of > people that work on ELisp without Emacs (even if we consider people that > use a web IDE that supports LSP). Wouldn't we spend a lot of time > building something that almost no one would use? I agree, it seems like too much effort, if all you need is navigation and introspection. E.g. htmlfontify uses etags (but I guess that could be updated to use xref) to generate links for definitions. --=20 Philip Kaludercic