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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277566 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > How come? It could just as well be argued that throwing errors while > parsing key bindings is also confusing, especially when guessing that > C-f1 is the same C- isn't that far of a jump. Because then you end up with code that says (define-keymap ... "C-f1" 'some-function "C-" 'other-function) and the person reading it will then wonder "but what's the difference"? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no