From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking the output of `C-h b' Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2021 11:28:48 -0700 Message-ID: <878ry9f3q7.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87lf29xdkf.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11014"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZZvvBZ8gX/yP8bPs3yVeAVEEt3o= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 31 19:30:58 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhFbe-0002hW-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:30:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58976 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhFbd-0006Vn-4H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36334) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhFZm-0005eZ-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:29:02 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:56492) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mhFZk-0008KJ-Ja for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 14:29:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mhFZg-0000RS-8T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Oct 2021 19:28:56 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.248, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:278321 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Currently, `C-h b' start with: > > Key translations: > key binding > --- ------- > > C-x Prefix Command > A-SPC   > A-! ¡ > A-" Prefix Command > A-$ ¤ > A-' Prefix Command > A-* Prefix Command > A-+ ± > A-, Prefix Command > A-- ­ > > That goes on for 700 lines (for me) before we get to > > `gnus-agent-group-mode' Minor Mode Bindings: > key binding > --- ------- > > J Prefix Command > > J S gnus-group-send-queue > J Y gnus-agent-synchronize-flags > > etc, which is where the useful stuff starts. > > Now, the current order is (strictly speaking) correct, because those key > translations are real and they take precedence over the rest of the > bindings. But the likelihood of a user wanting to inspect that stuff is > pretty low, and it's just so... long. > > Does anybody mind if I put it at the end of the buffer, with at the > start of the buffer saying > > "Key translations take precedence, click here to see them" > > and clicking there taking you to the start of the translations (towards > the end of the buffer)? No, and please close bug#22334 when you do!