From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Have Customize always use `custom-file` Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 18:53:31 +0800 Message-ID: <878rvvbwlw.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <877dbge2nj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87sfu3bzm3.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsq3bxjr.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40333"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cc: xenodasein@tutanota.de To: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284143 Archived-At: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions." writes: > If you read further, you will also see one thing mentioned, that can > only occur with a defcustom. Here I quote what you are trying but > failing to contradict: "Stefan mentions existence quirks and corner > cases on some interactions of autoloading and Customize." I don't see anything in Stefan's reply, so would you please show which part you refer to? defcustom is also used for almost every user option in Emacs, and is completely unrelated to custom-set-variables for our purposes. > Anyway, this is pointless. You are wasting everyone's time here and > spamming the list. I'm not making accusations towards anyone, so I suggest you stop as well.