From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: xenodasein--- via "Emacs development discussions."
<emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
xenodasein@tutanota.de
Subject: Re: recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2022 21:15:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rumhl7o.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmtj23kgl.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:04:19 -0500")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> I see no point in sticking to behaviour obsoleted by the operating
>> system, such as storing cut text in the primary selection. On X, every
>> client has to cooperate with every other client in order to have working
>> cut and paste, and a single client deviating from that is sufficient to
>> bring down the entire deck-of-cards.
> Now I'm lost. What you say here seems to claim that the change under
> discussion brings Emacs in line with the official/standard protocol.
> Yet that change is very specific to the `CLIPBOARD` whereas I'd expect
> such an official protocol to behave the same for all types of selections.
No, this is something else unrelated to the original change: I'm trying
to coinvince people not to use `select-enable-primary', at least
lightly, and those prior changes you referred to changed the default
value of `select-enable-primary'. Further down another thread someone
said that was common advice on the internet, which is shocking, since
that amounts to teaching people to break their systems.
> Elsewhere you said that the motivation was one of optimization
> of performance. Yet Noah's original message points out a change in
> actual behavior rather than mere performance.
>
> I'm having difficulty reconciling those somewhat contradictory facts.
>
> Could someone walk me through step-by-step what happens in one or two cases,
> (e.g. Noah's case, or the "normal" case) explaining what Emacs does and
> why, how the patch affects the outcome and what the ideal behavior would
> be according to the standard protocol?
We don't know what happens in Noah case yet. He hasn't replied to my
questions.
Thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-07 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-06 11:07 recent change to yanking behavior of the clipboard xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:21 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:37 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 11:47 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 11:55 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:01 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 12:06 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 12:15 ` tomas
2022-02-06 12:20 ` xenodasein--- via Emacs development discussions.
2022-02-06 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 1:18 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:15 ` Po Lu [this message]
2022-02-07 19:47 ` James Cloos
2022-02-07 19:53 ` tomas
2022-02-06 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-06 3:39 Noah Friedman
2022-02-06 7:37 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-06 9:34 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 10:18 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 16:09 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07 1:11 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 2:05 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07 2:59 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 5:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07 5:17 ` Yuri Khan
2022-02-07 5:23 ` Óscar Fuentes
2022-02-07 5:31 ` Po Lu
2022-02-06 22:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07 1:12 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 2:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07 3:11 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 3:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07 3:48 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 4:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-02-07 4:44 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 4:57 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07 5:29 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 5:47 ` Corwin Brust
2022-02-07 5:52 ` tomas
2022-02-07 6:43 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 6:57 ` tomas
2022-02-07 13:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 13:18 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 12:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-07 12:56 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 13:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-07 13:17 ` Po Lu
2022-02-07 1:11 ` Tim Cross
2022-02-07 2:31 ` Michael Welsh Duggan
2022-02-06 9:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
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