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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294604 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Payas Relekar [2022-09-02 20:23:38] wrote: >> Just a thought. Since we already have IRC client in the core, it will be >> nice to have a well-maintained Matrix client in core as well. >> Any chance of that happening? Thoughts? > > I think adding packages to core Emacs is usually a bad idea unless it's > a package contributing to the general infrastracture of ELisp (or if > it's a package that's important for some ELisp package that's already in > core). Fair. > I think the plan/intention is rather to move things out of core. > To make up for it, the intention is then to provide a new mechanism to > "bundle" some GNU ELPA packages into the "default" build of Emacs. Well, assuming that happens, can Ement be considered for default bundling? Tangential, but I'm assuming you mean something in between current org/modus-themes development model where upstream is periodically merged to core and ELPA, but just to clarify, is that what you mean, or a built-in way to generate custom Emacs 'distribution' of sorts, or something else? Thank, Payas --