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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302447 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Richard Stallman writes: > > But the downside is also less than with shipping pure binaries, becau= se > > platforms without shipped native-compiled code will just have a longer > > startup time, but the package will still work. > > Why do you expect this to affect startup time? Are you assuming the > first thing done after downloading the package will beto > native-compile it? Why should that be? Usually a package is either native-compiled on first usage or directly on installation. If it is not native-compiled on installation, the first usage causes a compilation with the results saved into the eln-cache. But I just realized that I had misunderstood the original suggestion: it=E2=80=99s not actually compiled transparently, but needs to be compiled = to be usable at all. I=E2=80=99m sorry for misunderstanding the extend of the compilation. =E2=87=92 I was wrong and the policy should be held up. 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