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From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
Cc: 62164@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#62164: 29.0.60; ediff behaves poorly by default on tiling window managers
Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2023 09:00:30 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878rg087v5.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cz5c87xg.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2023 08:59:07 +0800")

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com> writes:
>
>> ediff defaults to a multiframe UI on graphical displays.  If the user is
>> running a tiling window manager on X, the control panel frame gets tiled
>> and the whole thing becomes either very ugly or unusable.
>>
>> This is a very long-standing bug, but it should be fixed.  Most tiling
>> window manager users work around this with:
>>
>> (setq ediff-window-setup-function 'ediff-setup-windows-plain)
>>
>> But I would rather the multiframe UI just work correctly by default.
>
> Maybe such users could be taught to make the utility window
> override-redirect instead.
>
>> On X, perhaps we should set _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE to
>> _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY for the ediff control panel frame, so that
>> tiling window managers float the control panel frame frame by default.
>> This would probably need to be a new frame parameter specific to X.  I
>> can try to make that change if that seems reasonable.  (This would also
>> be useful for allowing other packages to have multiframe UI modes.)
>
> The ediff control frame is not a utility frame because you are supposed
> to type in it.
>
> One window manager which extensively uses keyboard navigation (I'm not
> sure I remember which) applies the No Input focus model to
> _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_UTILITY, not letting you type in such toplevel
> windows.
>
>> I'm not sure what we'd do for other windowing systems.  Probably the
>> only other platform where tiling window managers are at all common is
>> Wayland; perhaps there's some way to set this hint through PGTK?
>
> No, Wayland doesn't provide any of this, unless you use a protocol that
> is exclusive to GNOME Shell.  Popups are instead supposed to be
> implemented as xdg_popup windows and not xdg_toplevels, or toplevels
> transient for another toplevel.  The former is technically infeasible
> under GTK, and the latter results in the control frame obscuring
> everything else.

BTW, `x-change-window-property' lets you mess around with window
properties if you want.  No frame parameter needed.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-14  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-13 16:44 bug#62164: 29.0.60; ediff behaves poorly by default on tiling window managers Spencer Baugh
2023-03-14  0:59 ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-14  1:00   ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-03-16 15:07     ` Spencer Baugh
2023-03-17  1:56       ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-02  1:53         ` sbaugh
2023-04-02  5:55           ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-04-02 11:33             ` sbaugh
2023-05-09 18:27               ` Spencer Baugh
2023-05-09 19:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-05 21:56                   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-05 23:51                     ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-06 11:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-28  1:13                       ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28  1:25                         ` Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-06-28 11:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-06-28 12:55                           ` Spencer Baugh
2023-06-28 13:40                             ` Robert Pluim
2023-07-03 19:21                               ` sbaugh
2023-07-06  7:51                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-03-14  3:06   ` Ruijie Yu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-03-14 13:13 ` Phil Sainty

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