From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should `indirect-function' be preferred over `fboundp'? Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2023 10:51:44 +0000 Message-ID: <878rb88bi7.fsf@localhost> References: <87h6pzxdof.fsf@localhost> <87cz0mul4j.fsf@web.de> <87lef994qt.fsf@localhost> <87lef8wthm.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18534"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 22 12:52:31 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qNADv-0004dF-8Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:52:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNAD4-00058F-VE; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 06:51:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNAD3-000586-Ls for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 06:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qNAD1-0006Rg-LO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 06:51:37 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35C5D240104 for ; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:51:33 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1690023093; bh=RvLAkUKLnYR2SC/tFfahTlp3lIjNTaQgaHf5fEeD3bs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=TzMaf7BdaPsTv6c9daewYd86HaXMtl79QX7sV3g7g4pHb1aYt+kS1xKunwrxlte17 +wQBtpmX3GkMCdPF9omTcW4S1a+XiYOvJsE9GSZrSH4gm/qqu8xoH1uKTSFGqtia+8 6XqNnKFs/M0dxHikhL3zOo0tP7+ypeO406SKNNaibeCEorJ+hmsh2b4cRJhVyr+AVQ ptHVwnwO9l8aTleCG4lQoY/l8JbXeUYE9YM0qyPwEgbOuJhBYuhRQ49jn4AeNWwBG1 6wSqRE2PN7rKEgvOBY4zTPSvfB+NkVuc2nD8SaUw85vx3hLTamWeqVQHtfRFIYfM6Y XajvApeb9ViIg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4R7NX428WZz6twq; Sat, 22 Jul 2023 12:51:32 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87lef8wthm.fsf@web.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:308012 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: >> I think that part of the problem _for me_ is that >> >> (defalias 'yant/foo 'yant/bar) >> (fboundp 'yant/foo) ; => t >> (funcall 'yant/foo) ; => ERROR: Symbol function definition is void: yant/foo >> >> only shows an error for `yant/foo', which is somewhat confusing. >> `yant/bar' is where function definition is truly void. > > I see and understand. The error message can be misleading in this case. Would it be of interest to add 2 new error types: 1. Qvoid_indirect_function 2. Qinvalid_indirect_function It will make it more explicit that it is function indirection that has problems. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at