Re: [ELPA] New package: dape

[Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>]

Daniel Pettersson <daniel@dpettersson.net> writes:

> On Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 4:54 PM Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net> wrote:
>
>> I have tried to try it out right now, but because I've never used DAP
>> before, I am not sure how to get it running properly.  Nevertheless, I
>> think it would be useful to have something along these lines:
>
> Did you get working?

I haven't had the time to try since.

>> +      (customize-variable 'dape-configs)
>
> Implemented

1+

>> Another interesting idea to pursue might be to have modular UIs.
>> Instead of splitting up the current Emacs frame, I think a minimalist,
>> more edebug-like interface would be nice, where variable values could be
>> displayed using overlays instead of having a separate buffer.
>
> Nice suggestion. I did try to implement a more minimalist interface with
> variable overlays.
>
> Which can be enabled with the following.
> (setq dape-inline-variables t)
> (setq dape-on-start-hooks nil)

This sounds great, I'll have to try it out at some point!  It might be
nice to have this as a minor mode that you could enable with a hook or
as a global minor mode.

> Second screenshot in the README.org, it's more inline with edebug. 

Just FYI these don't appear to be displayed on the GitHub page.

>                                                                    But
> there is some issues with placement and variable lookup. The current
> implementation relies on regex and font lock to search for symbols.
> If that work could be offloaded to Eglot/lsp-mode via xref (*I don't
> know if lsp support it). But currently that is not possible because
> Eglot only supports looking up reference at point.

Have you contacted João?

>> Note that you don't need to add Compat just for `defvar-keymap', as you
>> could also just use the traditional method of defining a keymap instead:
>
> Fixed.
>
>> It just doesn't say that much, and I don't know if it is intended, but
>> the usual way I would read/pronounce it (rhyming with cape) wouldn't
>> immediately signal any relation to DAP.  Note that you can use (elisp)
>> Shorthands to avoid writing out a longer name inside the file, in case a
>> longer name like debuger-adapter.  It seems there is no package by the
>> name of "dbg"?  If we are not interested in a self-descriptive and
>> memorable name, and would want to create a parallel to Eglot (IIRC Emacs
>> polyGLOT), perhaps something like based on "Emacs Debugger" (Egger?
>> Ebugger?  Edebugger?) might be possible as well.
>
> "dbg" is nice and sweet, but I think it's a + for discoverability to have
> dap in the name of the package. How about eldap? If it should signify
> a connection to Eglot, maybe Ebug or even closer Dpoly? Or maybe a
> reference to Grace Hopper, hopper.

While I like eldap, note that this doesn't have a direct connection to
Eglot -- which is /not/ Elgot.

> Personally I like eldap, probably because it feels familiar.