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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315332 Archived-At: Several months ago I tried to contact the maintainer of adaptive-wrap regarding the inclusion of his package into Emacs proper, who did not respond over all the months that have since passed. (In general I was met with stony silence. It's funny how pandemonium erupts when a minor proposal to introduce _new_ code appears, but the same people wash their hands of minor chores required for the code to remain useful.) It's a fair bet that the package maintainer is not actively engaged in its development anymore, so if I hear no serious objections in the next few days I will write the documentation and merge this invaluable feature into master. I think placing the package on ELPA was unwise and would not have taken place but for our obsession with moving things to ELPA. Minor features will never justify the hassle of browsing through the package list, downloading them from the Internet, and updating them with each new release of Emacs that obsoletes this or that feature. For the future, could we please adopt at least the following two criteria for installing packages in ELPA rather than Emacs? They're not very precise but better than nothing. - The package is of sufficient size to be worthy of Internet installation, and provides features in demand high enough that users proactively research and install them. - The package maintainer desires that it be distributed over ELPA. Even those proprietary text editors developed behind closed doors do not relegate useful text editing features to their extension repositories. Users are forced to distribute small enhancements there, because the developers of such text editors are not receptive to users acting on their own initiatives. We are not so conceited, and should make the most of this advantage of ours.