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From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Question about copy-region-as-kill
Date: 07 Apr 2002 21:20:55 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877knjd7iw.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1018165593.4269.27.camel@space-ghost>

Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org> writes:
> Indeed.  But extents provide these same advantages.  And it should not
> be difficult to write a text properties API on top of an extents
> mechanism.

What I'm arguing for is to keep the current interfaces, because I think
they're both useful.  Whether or not they use the same underlying
mechanism is an implementation detail (about which others are more
knowledgable than I).

> So extents give you the best of all possible worlds, AFAICS.

We've already got an implementation that provides both; why change (but
see below)?

> Since I have the feeling that we are at this point arguing by repeated
> assertion, let me paste here the description of the problem I ran into
> using overlays for ibuffer, when RMS originally asked me why I thought
> overlays had a poor interface:

From your description, it sounds like you would be happy if [certain]
text-properties could be optionally suppressed from being copied by a
user; true?

I think that would be a useful extension to text-properties.

What I'm not sure of why you seem to have come to the conclusion that a
whole-sale reworking of the way text-properties and overlays work is
required.

Cheers,

-Miles
-- 
Suburbia: where they tear out the trees and then name streets after them.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-07 12:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-03 23:23 Question about copy-region-as-kill John Wiegley
2002-04-05  6:02 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-05 21:39   ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06  7:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-06  8:21       ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06 10:29         ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-06 17:46           ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-06 18:05             ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07 18:50               ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-08  1:23                 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-06 18:30             ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-06 23:03               ` Alan Shutko
2002-04-07  7:42                 ` Karl Eichwalder
2002-04-08 15:53                   ` Stefan Monnier
2002-04-08 21:21                     ` John Wiegley
2002-04-09  9:31                       ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-09 11:03                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-09 10:23                           ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 13:05                             ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-09 13:24                               ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 14:42                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2002-04-10 14:24                           ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-10 14:24                         ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-10 16:27                           ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-11 14:53                             ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-11 16:27                               ` Kim F. Storm
2002-04-12 19:49                                 ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-12 10:36                               ` Francesco Potorti`
2002-04-09 15:26                       ` Per Abrahamsen
2002-04-09 21:28                         ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  3:56               ` Tak Ota
2002-04-06 15:05         ` Andreas Schwab
2002-04-06 17:32     ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-06 20:38       ` John Wiegley
2002-04-06 23:03         ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07  0:12           ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  0:56             ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  2:53               ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  4:44                 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:58                   ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  5:32                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  6:53                       ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  7:46                         ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  8:18                           ` Alex Schroeder
2002-04-07 12:20                           ` Miles Bader [this message]
2002-04-08  3:09                             ` Colin Walters
2002-04-08  6:18                               ` Miles Bader
2002-04-09 22:04                                 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-10 20:17                                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 12:07                               ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 22:12                                 ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  6:36                   ` John Wiegley
2002-04-07  6:55                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07 23:42                   ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-08  3:14                     ` Colin Walters
2002-04-09 12:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2002-04-09 22:06                         ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:41               ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07  4:58                 ` Miles Bader
2002-04-07  5:43                   ` Colin Walters
2002-04-07 10:52         ` Kai Großjohann
2002-04-06 17:43     ` Kai Großjohann

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