From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Brockman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:19:42 +0200 Message-ID: <877jcyowy9.fsf@wigwam.deepwood.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128129996 23373 80.91.229.2 (1 Oct 2005 01:26:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 01:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 01 03:26:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW8H-0008NH-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:25:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW8G-00026K-CL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:25:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW6b-0001sA-0n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW6W-0001pU-RL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:23:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW6V-0001ma-Qx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1ELW3H-0008Jf-N4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:20:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ELW2D-0007Jb-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:19:29 +0200 Original-Received: from c-60b670d5.028-10-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se ([213.112.182.96]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:19:29 +0200 Original-Received: from daniel by c-60b670d5.028-10-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 03:19:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-60b670d5.028-10-67766c2.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se X-Face: :&2UWGm>e24)ip~'K@iOsA&JT3JX*v@1-#L)=dUb825\Fwg#`^N!Y*g-TqdS AevzjFJe96f@V'ya8${57/T'"mTd`1o{TGYhHnVucLq!D$r2O{IN)7>.0op_Y`%r;/Q +(]`3F-t10N7NF\.Mm0q}p1:%iqTi:5]1E]rDF)R$9.!,Eu'9K':y9^U3F8UCS1M+A$ 8[[[WT^`$P[vu>P+8]aQMh9giu&fPCqLW2FSsGs User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:z3wOtGw9cyKZHJ2Oiv25obME3WA= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43413 Archived-At: Jason Rumney writes: > I didn't see the original, but I strongly disagree that 10 > seconds is too long for reading a potentially long message > in a tooltip. Me too. Why stop displaying it after 10 seconds even? That limit seems really arbitrary and annoying. > As long as the user is not using the keyboard or mouse, > what harm is there in continuing to display the tooltip? Exactly. Why not keep displaying it until the user starts typing or moves the mouse away from the tooltipped object? After all, if the user has not yet done one of those things, he or she is probably still reading the tooltip. -- Daniel Brockman