From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: "Package options is obsolete" but beats "customization" Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 01:38:04 +0800 Message-ID: <877j3sq32b.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1149716491 28942 80.91.229.2 (7 Jun 2006 21:41:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 21:41:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 07 23:41:30 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo5m3-0006gy-O9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:41:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo5m3-0007Q8-6K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo5lY-0007Ak-JQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:40:40 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo5lW-00079r-SG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fo5lW-00079f-D9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [204.74.68.40] (helo=frodo.hserus.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1Fo5tC-0007J6-7n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 17:48:34 -0400 Original-Received: from tc218-187-23-162.dialup.dynamic.apol.com.tw ([218.187.23.162]:3754 helo=jidanni1) by frodo.hserus.net with esmtpsa (Cipher TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.62 #0) id 1Fo5lS-000My9-4a by authid with plain for ; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 03:10:36 +0530 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:15135 Archived-At: Only now on day 2 and in a different emacs 22 session, after writing all those bug reports on day 1, do I now see "Package options is obsolete" in the minibuffer, upon just happening to start edit-options. So fine, only now after replying to all my day 1 bug reports, to inform me that Package options is obsolete, do you now see that I finally got the message already. So were even. Messages in the minibuffer have a 50/50 chance of not being seen by the user. How do you know that they weren't even also covered up by a different message? So you should put the message in more places, like at the top of the *List Options* buffer, etc. ;; The customization buffer feature is intended to make this obsolete. Not so fast. I run screaming when ever sent to the customization buffer. "There is a sense that I am not in control." Indeed I wish there was a script that would translate all the ;; custom-set-faces was added by Custom. ;; If you edit it by hand, you could mess it up, so be careful. junk that was written to my .emacs just like I was a little kid in Microsoft land, back to good old setq's that I can deal with by hand.