From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: PATH Variable Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:39:37 +0200 Organization: sometimes Message-ID: <877iozttxy.fsf@ambire.localdomain> References: <1184562801.128350.227380@r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> <1184595422.795382.260510@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <857ip0m46i.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <1184649608.358206.203830@m3g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184654470 18449 80.91.229.12 (17 Jul 2007 06:41:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:41:10 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 17 08:41:09 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IAgk7-00070p-Jy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 08:41:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IAgk7-0007uQ-5G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:41:07 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!uio.no!quimby.gnus.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 32 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-138-32.21-151.libero.it Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1184654395 28852 151.21.32.138 (17 Jul 2007 06:39:55 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:39:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:J0XnfjmFYdA8DE0HHthWe0wmbTc= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:150162 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:45747 Archived-At: () srandby () Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:20:08 -0700 if one wishes to deride Emacs, then one should know how to use Emacs and how it works. Yet, it is an easy matter to find put-downs of Emacs authored by people who clearly know little or nothing about it. Such put-downs are nothing but propaganda. perhaps that is the purpose of the put-downs. to disregard put-downs w/o knowing their motivation is like disregarding emacs w/o knowing it. weak positions when you can see positions unfiltered by their potential to withstand attack, you may come to appreciate variety for its own sake. truly interested what it truly something, infinity or non-zero? this is not done to foster an honest debate about Emacs or to help others with their Emacs problems, it is done out of a spirit of arrogance, self-promotion, and ignorance of opposing viewpoints. likewise, emacs problems arise and are buried under the same mentalities, for its caretakers are (historically) humans. categorically ignoring "improper derision" is everyone's pasttime. thi