From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Xrefactory violates Emacs license? Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:06 -0500 Message-ID: <877iiiont9.fsf@jbms.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1199903364 29651 80.91.229.12 (9 Jan 2008 18:29:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:29:24 +0000 (UTC) To: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 09 19:29:45 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JCfgL-00087J-VH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:29:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCffy-0001rW-Hz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCffv-0001qA-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JCfft-0001p9-Gq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JCfft-0001or-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:13 -0500 Original-Received: from deleuze.hcoop.net ([69.90.123.67]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JCffp-0003QK-PZ; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:09 -0500 Original-Received: from c-67-165-107-197.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([67.165.107.197] helo=localhost) by deleuze.hcoop.net with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JCffn-00053G-Rm; Wed, 09 Jan 2008 13:29:07 -0500 X-Habeas-SWE-9: mark in spam to . X-Habeas-SWE-8: Message (HCM) and not spam. Please report use of this X-Habeas-SWE-7: warrant mark warrants that this is a Habeas Compliant X-Habeas-SWE-6: email in exchange for a license for this Habeas X-Habeas-SWE-5: Sender Warranted Email (SWE) (tm). The sender of this X-Habeas-SWE-4: Copyright 2002 Habeas (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-3: like Habeas SWE (tm) X-Habeas-SWE-2: brightly anticipated X-Habeas-SWE-1: winter into spring User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:86654 Archived-At: Hello, I just became aware of this product: http://www.xref-tech.com/xrefactory/main.html It seems to consist of some external process written in C that communicates over a file descriptor with a user interface written in Emacs Lisp. The Emacs Lisp user interface is not merely some additional interface to an existing program; rather, it is the only interface to the program, and the program was designed specifically for this Emacs interface. The product is sold under a proprietary license and the (non-elisp) source code is not provided. I apologize if the FSF is already aware of this product. If not, I figured I'd send a message to the list, since it seems that this product may potentially constitute a license violation. -- Jeremy Maitin-Shepard