From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: michael@cadilhac.name (Michaël Cadilhac)
Cc: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: suggestion for set-file-modes
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 23:55:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <877ih3nt8a.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d4qw2wf9.fsf@cadilhac.name> ("Michaël Cadilhac"'s message of "Sat, 16 Feb 2008 20:39:38 -0500")
>> The standard convention when reading a value in the minibuffer is to put
>> the default value in the prompt and make it available for editing by
>> M-n.
>
> First, if we have three different notations, why this one should be
> preferred as the default one?
There is no need to prefer only one notation because there can be more
than one default notation.
>> When the permission bits are retrieved in such notation from the default
>> value then editing them is just like toggling that is convenient.
>
> Second, from `-------' to `-rw-rwxr-x', there is 5 times `space' and
> three `right' when we talk about toggling, while it's `right, C-d, r,
> C-d, w, right, C-d, r, C-d, w, C-d, x, C-d, r, right, C-d, x' when
> editing, which is a lot more cumbersome. And typing `-rw-rwxr-x'
> (which, you'd agree, is not natural) is best replaced by `a+r,ug+w,go+x'
> or `675' if you're bit-oriented. The `ls -l' notation has the drawback
> that you have not only to precise the modes the file have, but also the
> modes the file doesn't have.
`-rw-rwxr-x' seems easier to type than `a+r,ug+w,go+x' but we don't need
decide what notation is preferable as we can support all of them.
--
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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[not found] ` <871w7jqiic.fsf@cadilhac.name>
[not found] ` <200802112200.m1BM0pke028675@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu>
2008-02-11 23:41 ` suggestion for set-file-modes Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-16 19:19 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-16 23:07 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-16 23:27 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 0:14 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 0:48 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 1:08 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 1:31 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 2:04 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 2:21 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 21:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:43 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 1:39 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 20:29 ` Richard Stallman
2008-02-18 3:01 ` Michaël Cadilhac
2008-02-17 21:57 ` Juri Linkov
2008-02-17 21:55 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-02-17 22:18 ` Miles Bader
2008-02-17 22:59 ` Juri Linkov
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