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From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: tzz@lifelogs.com, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>,
	David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:01:07 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877ibfipbg.fsf@jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvej5ndbj0.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:04:49 -0400")

>> (Though one thing that springs to mind is to allow C-q ## to insert
>> a literal #...
>
> Maybe C-q # SPC (and C-q ? SPC, ...) could be used, indeed.  But it's
> still yet-another-rule to learn.

The beauty of using standard Emacs Lisp notations is that we don't have
to invent another escaping syntax.  So with the latest patch it is
possible to insert them with

    C-q ?#
    C-q ??
    C-q \#
    C-q \?
    C-q \\

All these notations are well documented in Emacs manuals.

> I think a good solution should start by scrapping the C-q <octal>
> corner case, and replace it with something that does not interfere as
> much with C-q <char> and which additionally accepts hexadecimal (and
> maybe more such as char names, ...).

I agree with your idea of separating input by number.  To do this
we should find only one special key to activate input by number.
I propose `RET'.  Currently `C-q RET' inserts "^M".  This character
is rarely needed to insert since more useful line-feed is on `C-q C-j'.
And it is more natural to insert ^M by using `C-q C-m'.

-- 
Juri Linkov
http://www.jurta.org/emacs/




  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-21  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-15 17:41 describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-15 20:42 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-16  2:29   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17  0:35     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-17  1:26       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-17 14:09         ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-17 23:40         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-18  0:10           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  0:47             ` inputting characters by hexadigit Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:54               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-18  1:01               ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18  4:48               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 12:39                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 16:17                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 17:33                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-18 18:08                       ` James Cloos
2008-07-18 18:59                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-18 21:29                           ` James Cloos
2008-07-19  0:30                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:41                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:35                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:59                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 23:17                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 23:29                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-29 16:07                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 18:00                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-19  5:49                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-07-19  0:13                     ` Miles Bader
2008-07-19  0:29                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  0:27                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-20 20:28                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21  1:46                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  5:07                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:04                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21  9:01                             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2008-07-21 11:04                               ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 11:11                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:20                                   ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 14:24                                     ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 14:33                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 14:37                                         ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 19:25                               ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 19:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-21 20:23                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:38                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:49                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-21 22:03                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 23:37                                         ` Johan Bockgård
2008-07-22  1:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:52                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:36                                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 20:43                                       ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 20:50                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 21:12                                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-21 21:03                                         ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-21 21:24                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22  4:03                                           ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 21:06                                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22  4:04                                         ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 20:31                                   ` James Cloos
2008-07-21 21:11                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 23:43                                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22  4:06                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-21 16:54                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21 17:04                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-21  6:16                           ` David Kastrup
2008-07-22  0:51                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22  7:56                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22  8:33                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 10:57                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 12:26                               ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-22 12:33                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-22 12:35                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 16:16                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-22 16:54                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-22 20:38                                     ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2008-07-22 22:55                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:08                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  2:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 22:54                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23  0:28                                   ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  1:02                                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-23  2:32                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  3:18                                       ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23  3:38                                       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  3:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23  4:26                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23 19:19                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:26                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-23  9:03                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 10:15                                             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-23 14:27                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:58                                                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-22 14:06                             ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 13:01                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 13:05                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 13:44                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-23 14:27                                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 19:24                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 22:32                                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24  2:05                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 15:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 17:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-29 17:51                                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 19:55                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-29 20:51                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-30 15:29                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-31 19:20                                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18  0:38           ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Kenichi Handa
2008-07-18  0:58             ` Miles Bader
2008-07-18 13:33               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-18 13:53                 ` Drew Adams
2008-07-18 14:31                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-18 15:22                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-19  0:45                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-21 16:35                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-21 16:35                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-21 16:58                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-07-22 22:57                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:47                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:31                             ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 22:52                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 13:29                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:39                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 15:27                                     ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:34                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-25  0:41                                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-25  2:24                                           ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-19  0:35                 ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-19  1:11                   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20  0:29                     ` inputting characters by hexadigit Juri Linkov
2008-07-20  1:23                       ` Kenichi Handa
2008-07-20 20:27                         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 14:37                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 19:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-23 20:19                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24  2:08                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 13:20                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 13:40                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2008-07-24 14:03                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 15:25                                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 16:06                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 17:00                                           ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 18:15                                             ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 18:37                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-28 13:56                                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 20:12                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-24 20:27                                               ` Drew Adams
2008-07-24 20:37                                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:30                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:59                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-28 14:00                                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-23 22:35                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-23 23:00                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24  2:18                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-25  0:52                                     ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-24 13:24                                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2008-07-24 15:55                                   ` Drew Adams
2008-07-19  0:35               ` describe-char should display the character's Unicode name Juri Linkov

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