From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phil Jackson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:15 +0100 Message-ID: <877i9yye9o.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> References: <48B7F905.7060605@gmail.com> <001301c909e8$d63092e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <20080829155801.05fabc31.taylor@metasyntax.net> <48B85740.8060309@gmail.com> <20080829164637.4211a5b7.taylor@metasyntax.net> <48B86366.7040303@gmail.com> <87ljyfxz25.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> <48B87432.6050902@gmail.com> <87bpzaygrn.fsf@shellarchive.co.uk> <20080830101835.GB2698@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220093019 19839 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2008 10:43:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , jasonr@gnu.org, Taylor Venable , 'David House' , 'Eli Zaretskii' , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Drew Adams To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 12:44:31 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZNwU-0002sb-2k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:44:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40333 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZNvV-0007V4-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:43:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZNvP-0007Ui-66 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:43:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZNvN-0007TK-Ee for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:43:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52484 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZNvN-0007TA-Aa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:43:21 -0400 Original-Received: from c.painless.aaisp.net.uk ([81.187.30.53]:50100) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZNvE-0002wN-9a; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 06:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from 241.28.187.81.in-addr.arpa ([81.187.28.241] helo=home-desktop) by c.painless.aaisp.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KZNvB-0006Tv-VD; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:43:10 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20080830101835.GB2698@muc.de> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:18:35 +0000") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (Version: ClamAV 0.93.3/8120/Sat Aug 30 04:43:49 2008, by smtp.aaisp.net.uk) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103258 Archived-At: Alan Mackenzie writes: >> >> One can make assumptions about a Windows system (like every user >> >> using explorer.exe), but not really about a GNU/Linux system. > >> > Is not that then a shortcoming of GNU/Linux compared with Windows? > >> No with GNU/Linux you have choice. My system works exactly the way I >> want it and not the way any corp. wants it to. > > That's kind of missing the point. It also verges on rubbing salt into > the wound. > > You need, somehow, to become aware of this "choice" before doing > irrevocable damage. I don't think Lennart would now be unhappy if > something in Dired had made him aware of what he was about to do. I think you misunderstand, this (now way off topic) conversation came about when Lennart talked about having some sort of global trash can interface. I was trying to state that you can't make assumptions about that sort of interface in GNU/Linux that you can with Windows and OSX. Cheers, Phil -- Philip Jackson http://www.shellarchive.co.uk