Re: org-link-mode ...

Re: org-link-mode ...

[Bastien]

Hi Lennart,

(I'm copying the Orgmode mailing list because it helps to get people's
opinion on such ideas...)

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

> I am missing the minor mode org-link-mode. I just had a look at
> linkd.el again and decided I wanted to ask you to make a minor mode
> out of the link handling in org instead.

Org already lets you create links from nearly anywhere in Emacs. 

What would such a minor mode do?

> I have a minor mode which I call mlink-mode for link handling. The
> main purpose of that at the moment is creating links in html files and
> for making links out of variables in elisp file so that you quickly
> can jump to definitions. 

`org-store-link' can handle HTML and elisp files okay.

> However there is no "insert link". That is
> what I am looking for and then it looks to me like what I want is
> already there in org-mode, but...

You can of course insert links in Org-mode files.  Is your idea about
inserting links outside of Org-mode files?  Can you give an example?

> The purpose of mlinks.el was to try to unifiy links in some way so I
> will probably try to unify it with org links if you break it out.

I think I need more background on what are the main features of
linkd.el and mlinks.el -- and what are the ones you miss in Org...  

Thanks for further clarifications :)

-- 
 Bastien

Re: Re: org-link-mode ...

[Eric Schulte]

Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes:

> Hi Lennart,
>
> (I'm copying the Orgmode mailing list because it helps to get people's
> opinion on such ideas...)
>
> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I am missing the minor mode org-link-mode. I just had a look at
>> linkd.el again and decided I wanted to ask you to make a minor mode
>> out of the link handling in org instead.
>
> Org already lets you create links from nearly anywhere in Emacs. 
>
> What would such a minor mode do?
>

Not sure if this is apropos to this conversation, but I've been thinking
for some time that it would be useful to have a minor mode which would
activate org-style links in non-org files.  For example if an org link
in the comment section of a source-code document could be highlighted
and activated so that the C-c C-o keybinding can be used to follow said
link. -- Eric

Re: Re: org-link-mode ...

[Lennart Borgman]

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Eric Schulte<schulte.eric@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Hi Lennart,
>>
>> (I'm copying the Orgmode mailing list because it helps to get people's
>> opinion on such ideas...)
>>
>> Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> I am missing the minor mode org-link-mode. I just had a look at
>>> linkd.el again and decided I wanted to ask you to make a minor mode
>>> out of the link handling in org instead.
>>
>> Org already lets you create links from nearly anywhere in Emacs.
>>
>> What would such a minor mode do?
>>
>
> Not sure if this is apropos to this conversation, but I've been thinking
> for some time that it would be useful to have a minor mode which would
> activate org-style links in non-org files.  For example if an org link
> in the comment section of a source-code document could be highlighted
> and activated so that the C-c C-o keybinding can be used to follow said
> link. -- Eric


That is exactly what I am thinking of.

But the key binding could perhaps be rethought. Beside that I would
want som unification of link handling where it is possible. Things to
uniffy are for example:

- Mouse handling
- Keyboard keys
- Opening in windows/frames
- Opening in external apps
- Moving between links
- Coordination with moving between widget and buttons (like "tab
stops" in common GUIs)
- Link faces
- Link information

Re: Re: org-link-mode ...

[Bastien]

"Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:

> Not sure if this is apropos to this conversation, but I've been thinking
> for some time that it would be useful to have a minor mode which would
> activate org-style links in non-org files.  For example if an org link
> in the comment section of a source-code document could be highlighted
> and activated so that the C-c C-o keybinding can be used to follow said
> link. -- Eric

Now I understand.  Maybe someone can grab some code from Org and try to
write a minimal implementation of this.

-- 
 Bastien

Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-link-mode ...

[Samuel Wales]

n.b. org-link-minor-mode exists, works, and i find it useful.  i think
it could use updating, but it is indispensible.

btw i have not tried embark yet.  i wonder if it could do something
similar, or maybe it doesn't fontify.

meanwhile, for years now i'm finding that i am wanting a new link-like
anchor-like feature that would also be a minor mode for non-org and
org.  a little similar to org-link-minor-mode in usage.  it is a very
simple feature that is sort of a tiny subset of what id markers can do
[those are extensible syntax thunks that use org ids in org and
non-org].  i want to be able to place ===link thunks=== anywhere, such
as elisp or shell comments, and have features for listing all of them
that exist in my common directories [shell, elisp, org] like a better
lgrep with wgrep, navigating from one to the next, fontification,
completion, etc.  so for example, i could put ===refactor whatever===
on a few things in various files, and navigate among them.  they kind
of indicate a topic or allow gathering together things that are
related.

have to try embark sometime to see if it can do things like that.


On 8/18/09, Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> wrote:
> "Eric Schulte" <schulte.eric@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Not sure if this is apropos to this conversation, but I've been thinking
>> for some time that it would be useful to have a minor mode which would
>> activate org-style links in non-org files.  For example if an org link
>> in the comment section of a source-code document could be highlighted
>> and activated so that the C-c C-o keybinding can be used to follow said
>> link. -- Eric
>
> Now I understand.  Maybe someone can grab some code from Org and try to
> write a minimal implementation of this.
>
> --
>  Bastien
>
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