From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3022: 23.0.92; triangle images in Customize buffers are just plain bad Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:04:40 -0400 Message-ID: <877hub38qf.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 3022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1257002879 8908 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2009 15:27:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 31 16:27:52 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N4Frr-0005yi-Mt for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:27:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35935 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N4Frq-0006HH-RB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N4FrP-00062y-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N4FrL-0005xg-2D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49225 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N4FrK-0005xQ-P0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47607) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N4FrJ-0007zW-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:18 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9VFRE2d024401; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:27:15 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n9VFA8ZE022598; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:10:08 -0700 Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:10:08 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:10:08 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3022 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3022-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3022.125700148821092 (code B ref 3022); Sat, 31 Oct 2009 15:10:08 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3022) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 31 Oct 2009 15:04:48 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu (pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu [130.132.50.78]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9VF4lHh021089 for <3022@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:04:48 -0700 Original-Received: from furry (adsl-99-69-52-129.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net [99.69.52.129]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po44.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n9VF4fVv029772 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:04:41 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D1337C070; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:04:40 -0400 (EDT) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:27:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32310 Archived-At: > While the idea behind the triangles (arrows) in Customize is good > (actually, I believe it was I who suggested it), the current effect is > quite bad. > > If the value is shown, then the triangle points downward. Typically, > that symbol means that clicking it will display something additional > below the symbol. Instead, the value disappears. > > If the value is not shown, the the symbol is a right-pointing > triangle. That's OK in this case, since it suggests that clicking it > will display something to the right, and the value is to the right. > > However, for the symbol that replaces `More', a right-pointing > triangle is inappropriate, since the text is not displayed to its > right, but below it. This is a very standard user interface idiom, known as "disclosure triangles".