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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bzr repository ready?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:51:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877htj5w5e.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83y6lzo9e7.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:28:16 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> How do you manage your bidi branch right now? Is it a CVS branch on
>> the Emacs repository or a set of patches that you store on your
>> machine?
>
> It's a CVS checkout of the trunk, with local changes.  Each "cvs up"
> merges the changes on the trunk with my local changes.  Since no one
> is working on the display engine, I had maybe one or two conflicts in
> several months.  It's really not such a big deal, even with CVS.  I
> don't see how any VCS could "shine" in this use-case.  Maybe I'm
> missing something.

First, you are not using a version control system for your changes: it
would be quite scary to me making large changes to a complex code base
without the ability to undo the changes or inspect how and when they
were introduced. Second, publishing your work requires making a tarball
with the modified sources (or the diff against certain tag of Emacs
CVS).

Using bzr will bring in version control for your work. And you can
publish your emacs variant with full history simply putting a mirror on
a web server and pushing your local changes to it.

Once the bidi support is mature enough to be merged on the official
Emacs sources, bzr will help a lot because others will have the
opportunity to browse your branch and thus know what you changed and why
you changed it. They will be able to get a copy of your branch, test it
and suggest patches. And finally, you will push your changes to the
master Emacs branch with just a command, instead of splitting a large
patch in small pieces and committing them one at a time.

-- 
Óscar




  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-21 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 346+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-04 12:42 Moving to bzr? dhruva
2009-01-04 13:35 ` Christian Faulhammer
2009-01-04 13:50 ` David Reitter
2009-01-04 15:41 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-04 17:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-05  3:50   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-05  4:20     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-05  5:49       ` dhruva
2009-01-05  6:35       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-05 22:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-05 23:37           ` Chetan Pandya
2009-01-06 12:30             ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-06 13:14               ` Paul R
2009-01-06 14:32               ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-01-06 14:51                 ` Will Farrington
2009-01-06  4:29           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-06 20:35             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-06 20:38               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 22:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 22:14                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 22:58                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-07  0:53                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07  3:43                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07  3:50                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-07  8:31                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07 11:47                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07 12:00                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-07 12:23                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-06 23:00                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-07  0:56                       ` Juanma Barranquero
     [not found]                   ` <87zli4jcc4.fsf@workhorse.earlhome>
2009-01-07  3:41                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                       ` <87vdsrjcco.fsf@workhorse.earlhome>
2009-01-09  1:50                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-18 22:56                           ` bzr repository ready? (was: Moving to bzr?) Karl Fogel
     [not found]                             ` <87eiyy3lag.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-21  5:11                               ` bzr repository ready? Karl Fogel
2009-01-21  9:32                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-22  5:59                                   ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                 ` <874ozs34c6.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-22  6:15                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-22  8:24                                     ` dhruva
2009-01-22 14:34                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-23 17:00                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-24  4:21                                         ` dhruva
2009-01-24 12:07                                           ` [Savannah-help-public] " Sylvain Beucler
2009-10-14  0:49                                         ` Daniel Clemente
2009-10-14  3:00                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-10-24 19:38                                             ` Chong Yidong
2009-10-24 23:57                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-10-30 23:38                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-09 16:53                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-09 23:56                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-11 22:45                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-11 23:06                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12  2:34                                                           ` Jason Earl
2009-11-12  4:16                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12  4:35                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12  4:40                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 15:21                                                                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-12 15:39                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 17:37                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 18:01                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 20:11                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 23:37                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13  0:14                                                                           ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  9:38                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 10:35                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 13:36                                                                                 ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  0:13                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2009-11-13  1:12                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-13 14:33                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13 14:47                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13 15:08                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 17:47                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-14 10:45                                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-14 14:54                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-14 20:11                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 18:19                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 12:01                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 15:03                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-12 18:14                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 13:55                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-12 18:31                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 20:18                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 20:57                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-12 22:04                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-12 22:51                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-13  9:42                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-13 11:11                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-18 22:29                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-18 23:08                                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-19  3:56                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-18 23:09                                                                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-11-19  5:31                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 13:34                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 19:22                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 19:34                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-20 20:39                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-20 21:20                                                                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-20 22:46                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21  5:05                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  5:34                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21  6:59                                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 20:08                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 23:58                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  5:58                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  6:41                                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 15:47                                                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 16:58                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:24                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-29 20:52                                                                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-30  6:18                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-30  6:23                                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 12:37                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 14:17                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 17:17                                                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 18:18                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 17:08                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 12:32                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 12:12                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 22:49                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21  0:53                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 12:31                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 16:45                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 19:29                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 20:17                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 21:28                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 22:51                                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2009-11-22  4:19                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  0:54                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22  4:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22  6:11                                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-22  6:53                                                                                                     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-22 14:45                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  2:28                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23  3:09                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 20:38                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 22:19                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 21:02                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 22:19                                                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-26  6:23                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-26  8:34                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:36                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27 16:30                                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-27 16:52                                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-27 17:18                                                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-28  3:09                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27 19:06                                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27 19:22                                                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  6:45                                                                                                                               ` tomas
2009-11-28  9:57                                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-28 16:49                                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
     [not found]                                                                                                                 ` <E1NDXkp-0007Qr-VK@fencepost.gnu.org>
2009-11-26  7:09                                                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-25 22:26                                                                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-25 23:14                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-25 23:58                                                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-26  1:31                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26  1:07                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:35                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27  8:17                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  6:36                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-27  9:14                                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-27  9:21                                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-27 13:44                                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-28  3:10                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-28  6:50                                                                                                                       ` tomas
2009-11-28  7:06                                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-29  1:16                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-29  4:06                                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-29  4:18                                                                                                                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-29  5:39                                                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-29  4:18                                                                                                                             ` 
2009-11-30 15:52                                                                                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 16:31                                                                                                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-30  2:10                                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-01  4:10                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-01  6:39                                                                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-05  6:50                                                                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-12-05 17:44                                                                                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  3:09                                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 20:38                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 22:22                                                                                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-24 22:47                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25  1:46                                                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 22:36                                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  3:17                                                                                                       ` Glenn Morris
2009-11-22  5:13                                                                                                 ` Jason Earl
2009-11-22  7:19                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 20:32                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-22 21:37                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 23:15                                                                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-22  9:45                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 13:08                                                                                                     ` tomas
2009-11-22 23:43                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23  4:39                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  0:05                                                                                                     ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23  6:44                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:30                                                                                                         ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 23:41                                                                                                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-24  0:01                                                                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-24  1:19                                                                                                               ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-24  2:04                                                                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 23:41                                                                                                                   ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-11-25  5:28                                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  4:41                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  4:39                                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-21 12:14                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-22 23:23                                                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-21 12:06                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 14:40                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 16:27                                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 18:13                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 18:26                                                                                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 22:52                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-22  1:00                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-22 21:06                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20 21:56                                                                             ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-20 22:47                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 22:51                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 22:52                                                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-21  5:12                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  4:38                                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 10:43                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 16:10                                                                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-21 19:32                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 19:58                                                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-22 20:55                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-22 21:29                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  2:33                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-22 22:59                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  2:45                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23  3:20                                                                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  4:34                                                                                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 19:38                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-21 19:01                                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2009-11-22 23:41                                                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23  0:00                                                                                 ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  4:36                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23  5:11                                                                                   ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23  5:50                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23  7:35                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 14:39                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 15:17                                                                                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-23 16:45                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 18:06                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 19:36                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 22:59                                                                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-24  1:14                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24 22:47                                                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25  8:55                                                                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 10:32                                                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 17:48                                                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-25 18:22                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25 19:26                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 20:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25 18:53                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-24  4:20                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24  1:33                                                                                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24  7:28                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24  9:35                                                                                                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 11:04                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-24 11:54                                                                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-24 14:58                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-25  5:39                                                                                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-25 21:01                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24  2:56                                                                                           ` Making the tarball with bzr data (was: bzr repository ready?) Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-30 16:34                                                                                             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 18:46                                                                                               ` Making the tarball with bzr data Óscar Fuentes
2009-11-30 18:52                                                                                               ` Jason Earl
2009-11-23 12:11                                                                                       ` bzr repository ready? Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 14:28                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 18:52                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 12:07                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-19  0:49                                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-19  5:02                                                                       ` Ken Raeburn
2009-11-19  6:38                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-20 13:23                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-20 19:33                                                                       ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-23 17:56                                     ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                       ` <874ozp4ld3.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-28 21:24                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29  9:30                                           ` Daniel Clemente
2009-01-29 18:19                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-29 18:50                                               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-01-29 20:18                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-30  9:06                                                   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-01-30 15:50                                                     ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                           ` <87y6wvhxrk.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
     [not found]                                             ` <8763jwg1j8.fsf@red-bean.com>
2009-01-30 19:38                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-30 20:01                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-30 20:24                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2009-01-31  1:03                                                     ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-31  5:02                                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-31  8:59                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-02-04 17:28                                                         ` Karl Fogel
2009-02-04 20:48                                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2009-02-04 22:49                                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-02-06 20:19                                                               ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87k583nnxc.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-02-07  3:42                                                                   ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-23 14:53                                         ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                                           ` <871vrj8ew5.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-04-24  0:31                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 16:11                                           ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-28 16:33                                             ` Samuel Bronson
2009-04-28 17:29                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-28 17:47                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 18:11                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  7:08                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 18:30                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 19:31                                               ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  1:07                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-29  7:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-29 14:30                                                   ` Karl Fogel
     [not found]                                               ` <87fxfsr1md.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-04-28 21:56                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2009-04-29  7:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-04-28 23:47                                             ` Jason Rumney
2009-04-29  1:27                                               ` Samuel Bronson
2009-04-30 19:39                                             ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-21 23:33                       ` Moving to bzr? John Yates
2009-01-22  1:57                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-22 15:40                           ` Richard M Stallman
2009-01-13 18:58       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-01-05  9:48     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-05 11:07       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-01-05 14:52         ` Karl Fogel
2009-01-05 11:39       ` dhruva
2009-01-05 12:14         ` Nick Roberts
2009-01-05 12:26           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-01-05 12:34           ` dhruva
     [not found]         ` <87wsd9tqt6.fsf@notengoamigos.org>
2009-01-06  3:29           ` dhruva
2009-01-06  6:07             ` dhruva
2009-01-06  6:21               ` 马旋(SuperMMX)
2009-01-06 11:42             ` Daniel Clemente
2009-01-04 18:09 ` Tassilo Horn
2009-01-09  9:31   ` Miles Bader
2009-01-09 10:35     ` dhruva
2009-01-09 20:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-09 20:26         ` Juanma Barranquero
2009-01-10  9:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-10  2:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-10  3:06           ` Jason Rumney
2009-01-10  9:23             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-10 20:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-10  9:23           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-01-04 21:41 ` Richard M Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-22 23:30 bzr repository ready? Karl Fogel
2009-11-22 23:36 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23  6:06   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  7:42     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23 17:19     ` Karl Fogel
2009-11-23 18:53       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-11-23 19:35         ` Karl Fogel

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