From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bzr repository ready? Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:06:40 +0900 Message-ID: <877htbaitb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <877htl53tc.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ws1ku7zd.fsf@red-bean.com> <87hbso4s13.fsf@telefonica.net> <83aaygoy90.fsf@gnu.org> <87vdh36d48.fsf@telefonica.net> <831vjrptha.fsf@gnu.org> <87einr63b6.fsf@telefonica.net> <83y6lzo9e7.fsf@gnu.org> <871vjr750o.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83tywnnq34.fsf@gnu.org> <873a475bsr.fsf@telefonica.net> <87ocmu7x9c.fsf@red-bean.com> <87zl6crij4.fsf@red-bean.com> <87hbsifdsr.fsf@telefonica.net> <87d435sn0b.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87hbsgc4l8.fsf@telefonica.net> <83ocmnnc5d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1259348493 26649 80.91.229.12 (27 Nov 2009 19:01:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D3scar?= Fuentes , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 20:01:26 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NE64L-00027x-IN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 20:01:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39212 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE64L-0007Bz-Ag for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE64G-0007BF-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NE649-00073T-Ag for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=44859 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NE649-00073D-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:37149) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NE642-0003OI-QS; Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:01:07 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps02.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEF88214; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:01:01 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 156C211F01A; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:06:40 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <83ocmnnc5d.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" 1444e28f1a3d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117880 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I personally would regret [a document that advocates a particular > workflow to start from]. I think I'm grown-up enough to not have > me spoon-fed. Give me the information and let me decide myself > what's best for me, even if I make some mistakes on the way. But BzrForEmacsDevs is not about what's best for you. Figuring *that* out is your privilege, and your problem. BzrForEmacsDevs is about designing a recommended starter workflow that the majority of Emacs hackers can adopt without worrying too much, while avoiding the common mistakes that make life a lot less pleasant for the other people accessing the repository. See http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2009-11/msg01021.html for a leading example of the subtleties. See http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0805.2/0539.html for some of Linus's wisdom on the social aspects of workflows. That really rings true for me, but do you have any idea what he's talking about? BTW, Dave Miller got 3rd degree burns from the process of Linus working that out. I tried to find Linus's flames to give you an idea of how badly you can piss someone off with poor *social* workflow that works well for you individually, but no luck. Maybe somebody has an URL, it was classic. > What is ``full dVCS practice''? Can you describe it (or was it > already described in this thread)? Heh. Ask any three developers, you'll get four opinions. :-)