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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Quotes in Dired listing switches
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:14:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877hs7jqpt.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87637rze4b.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 28 Dec 2009 12:29:32 +0200")

Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org> writes:

>> However, remote directory listings won't show a "thousands separator of
>> the current locale", because Tramps sets LC_ALL to "C" on the remote
>> hosts. The C locale has no thousands separator. If you (Juri) want to
>> change this, you might customize `tramp-remote-process-environment',
>> setting LC_ALL to en_US.UTF-8 or so. But please be careful, because
>> Tramp reads output from some commands, and might expect English.
>
> Yes, this helps to show a thousands separator, and also to display
> non-ASCII characters in file names!  IMHO, it's a drawback that currently
> Tramp doesn't support Unicode in Dired file names by default.
>
> Is it possible to improve Tramp to set LC_ALL to "C" only for commands
> where Tramp expects English?  Or just to set LC_MESSAGES to "C" if Tramp
> expects only English messages?

That's something I have thought about already. But it requires a very
precise review of Tramp's communication, in order to identify those
places in the code. And also LC_NUMERIC might be involved; I fear that
Tramp might be confused by reading numbers with a thousand separator.
(Hopefully, `tramp-send-command-and-read' is the only place, but I do
not know whether we have been careful enough writing tramp.el)

Furthermore, Tramp cannot expect Unicode on the remote machine. There
might be anything encoded ...

I put it on the todo list. I won't change it before Emacs 23.2 is out,
due to stability reasons.

Best regards, Michael.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-28 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-23  9:07 Quotes in Dired listing switches Juri Linkov
2009-12-24  3:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-26 20:21   ` Michael Albinus
2009-12-28 10:29     ` Juri Linkov
2009-12-28 11:14       ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2009-12-28 21:08         ` Juri Linkov
2009-12-29  9:10           ` Michael Albinus
2009-12-29 20:35             ` Juri Linkov
2009-12-29 21:04               ` Michael Albinus
2009-12-29 17:10     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-12-30 19:46       ` Michael Albinus
2010-01-11  0:43   ` Juri Linkov
2010-01-25  9:29 ` Juri Linkov
2010-01-25 10:35   ` Eli Zaretskii

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