From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bazaar: "unable to obtain lock" Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:30:02 +0100 Message-ID: <877hs4m1dh.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <87my11gmf4.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fx6sqbnt.fsf@blah.blah> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262219453 20764 80.91.229.12 (31 Dec 2009 00:30:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:30:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 31 01:30:46 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ8w7-0002Ta-Ri for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:30:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38510 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ8w8-0003Cp-9U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:30:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ8w2-0003AX-JE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ8vy-00038b-7d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:30:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=54260 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NQ8vy-00038Y-1R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:30:34 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:47178) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NQ8vx-0006vV-HV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:30:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NQ8vq-0002MM-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:30:26 +0100 Original-Received: from 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net ([88.24.214.217]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:30:26 +0100 Original-Received: from ofv by 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:30:26 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.red-88-24-214.staticip.rima-tde.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:NKc3cT0FtAK+/GPVee9atlv0Sak= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119086 Archived-At: Kevin Ryde writes: > Karl Fogel writes: >> >> http://www.red-bean.com/kfogel/emacs-bzr-repository.tar.gz That tarball contains the source tree twice. That can be avoided if it contained tree-less branches. The user only needs to execute `bzr co' on the branch he wants to populate. > Is anything smaller possible for those of us at the end of a straw? A tarball with a lightweight checkout would require 31 MB. The bad news is that if your connection is so slow that a 300 MB download is unacceptable, you will have problems with the network inefficiency of bzr over http/sftp. A simple update after a few days can easily require to transfer 10 MB. A commit can be very expensive too at times. A lightweight checkout needs to contact upstream for almost everything. [snip] -- Óscar